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1 posted on 07/23/2010 8:23:54 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Correlation does not equal causation.


2 posted on 07/23/2010 8:30:05 PM PDT by Sloth (Civil disobedience? I'm afraid only the uncivil kind is going to cut it this time.)
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“Family planning” is a catholic thing. I would argue that any couple that goes to church and follows their church’s instructions will divorce less. This study is slanted in favor of catholics.


3 posted on 07/23/2010 8:32:34 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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Is there a legitimate alternative explanation for low divorce rate among practitioners of NFP?

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4 posted on 07/23/2010 8:36:51 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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Excellent! Last time I checked, the data showed around a 4% divorce rate; this is even better. And if these same folks attend daily Mass together, now or when they’re older, participate in Confession and Rosary-recitation frequently, their chances of divorce are almost nil.


5 posted on 07/23/2010 8:37:20 PM PDT by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
correlation does not equal causation.

This is not a scientific study for causation. All this attempts to generate is religious people have a lower divorce rate.

6 posted on 07/23/2010 8:37:31 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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“You know what you call people who practice Natural Family Planning?”

“What?”

“Parents.”

(My mom, Catholic mother of a half-dozen, to my brother, at his wedding)


10 posted on 07/23/2010 8:45:17 PM PDT by IncPen (How can a man who won't produce his own documentation lecture the rest of us on immigration?)
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I think there is a selectivity issue here. Those who have stable marriage, more religious, and so on, are more likely to choose NFP compared to those who don’t have stable marriage or being more religious. So, it may not mean that if you use artificial birth control, you’d experience divorce, unhappiness, etc. At least, that’s not a conclusion that we can draw from this data.


12 posted on 07/23/2010 8:57:25 PM PDT by paudio (Be a conscious news consumer: Say NO to Journolist propaganda.)
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**have a dramatically low (0.2%) divorce rate;**

This is a huge “WOW!”


14 posted on 07/23/2010 9:00:17 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Everyone would agree that divorce is the greatest tragedy that can befall a family

No! Divorce is not the greatest tragedy. The death of a child is the greatest tragedy. Divorce can only get second place.

18 posted on 07/23/2010 9:13:45 PM PDT by reg45
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It is only those people who are disinclined to divorce in the first place who love enough to practice NFP.


24 posted on 07/23/2010 9:37:20 PM PDT by amihow
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36 posted on 07/24/2010 7:31:40 AM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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I am glad to here about the “positive” results of NFP, but I do not think that I understand the concept. Is the goal to not have a child? I have read through some of the posts in this thread and it appears that a child is equated to a failure, this does not appear to line up with “children are an heritage of the Lord: and the fruit of the womb is his reward”. Why work against God’s reward?

Like I said, I may not understand the concept...My wife and I were told we would not have children by three different doctors and after leaving it in God’s hands we now have seven, and will accept more if it is God’s will.


45 posted on 07/24/2010 8:09:06 PM PDT by WorldviewDad (following God instead of culture)
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