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The Confession of Cyril Lucaris
The Voice ^ | 1692 | Cyril Lucaris

Posted on 07/22/2010 11:01:11 AM PDT by the_conscience

Edited on 07/23/2010 8:45:24 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: cantabile

AXIOX! AXIOS! AXIOS!


241 posted on 07/23/2010 1:10:44 PM PDT by don-o (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: wagglebee; Mrs. Don-o
I’m dying to know, does don-o call his wife a “Romanist” when she brings out the “slings and arrows”?

Nah. Papal Pinko is the pet name she lets me use. And, so far, I can run faster and farther that she can sling. So far.

242 posted on 07/23/2010 1:16:31 PM PDT by don-o (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: marshmallow; the_conscience
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't being "Wesley-Arminian" put a person pretty much in the "five solas" camp?

It's also worth noting that the Arminian's "commentary" also included a link to The Confession of Dositheus which was a point-by-point REJECTION of the Lucaris Confession. So, I wonder how much of the Orthodox perspective was really desired.

243 posted on 07/23/2010 1:26:38 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: markomalley; don-o; Mrs. Don-o
Oh, my...are you sure that kind of talk is appropriate?

I'm just an ignorant Papist, what do I know?

244 posted on 07/23/2010 1:28:44 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Frumanchu; Gamecock
Is this the point we're at? On a site that promotes itself as being thoroughly conservative, is FR now so obsessed with political correctness and catering to the whining victimhood of those wanting to shove their opinions into every single discussion

You mean like this, from a recent Catholic Caucus thread?

Ten Facts Most Catholics Don’t Know (But Should!) (Catholic Caucus)


To: NYer; Religion Moderator
As a side note, approximately 1200 years after this decision was made, Martin Luther and the Protestant reformers removed 7 books from the Old Testament. As a result, most Protestant Bibles are still missing these 7 books.

Objection!

The guidelines set forth on the RM homepage clearly state that The “caucus” article and posts must not compare beliefs or speak in behalf of a belief outside the caucus.

Because the above article clearly compares beliefs it should not be granted "Caucus" status. At best it should be changed to an Ecumenical thread.

I will now withdraw and await the RM's ruling.

34 posted on 07/10/2010 12:45:56 PM PDT by Gamecock ("God leads us to eternal life not by our merits but according to his mercy." - Augustine)

245 posted on 07/23/2010 2:10:33 PM PDT by Lorica
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To: Cronos

Ok, that is funny!


246 posted on 07/23/2010 2:26:31 PM PDT by svcw (Real faith is always increased by opposition, false confidence is damaged & discouraged by it)
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To: Religion Moderator; Jim Robinson; colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; ...
A relevant example considering the ebb and flow of this Religion Forum would be an "LDS/Catholic Caucus" to discuss Trinitarianism.

The LDS do not believe in the Trinity, the Catholics do - but both LDS and Catholic beliefs are subjected to intense challenges and ridicule on "open" town square format RF threads.

The LDS and Catholic posters may have a real interest in debating the doctrine of the Trinity without the interference of the "antis."

It is a valid caucus provided the article and replies do not contrast beliefs with the non-members, e.g. Protestants.

125 posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 7:47:40 AM by Religion Moderator

Trinitarian ping

Gee...that sounds very much like the "anti-Trinitarians" may indulge their disbelief of the Trinity under the caucus label with no allowance made for the "Pro-Trinitarians" to object.

In that case, the "antis" should be able to set up their OWN caucus to debate the "anti-Trinitarian" beliefs, do I have that right?

Actually, WE don't need that little "affirmative action" perk...but it sounds very familiar.

It will be interesting to see how It is a valid caucus provided the article and replies do not contrast beliefs with the non-members, e.g. Protestants. works.

247 posted on 07/23/2010 2:36:57 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Rush "They hate me because I am the most prominent, effective and unrelenting voice of conservatism")
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To: wagglebee; don-o; markomalley
Hmm. Without quite knowing what's going on here, let me say my husband is my favorite fellow-traveler, with or without filioque, and always good for a poke in the ribs.

Poke, grin, run.

248 posted on 07/23/2010 2:37:58 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Proudly jumping into threads without reading the context since 1998.)
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To: greyfoxx39
How do you reply without contrast and/or comparisons? What is the point of a discussion otherwise?
249 posted on 07/23/2010 2:39:46 PM PDT by svcw (Real faith is always increased by opposition, false confidence is damaged & discouraged by it)
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To: wagglebee
I'm the Popes-est with the mostest.

+{{{{:o)

250 posted on 07/23/2010 2:40:25 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Proudly jumping into threads without reading the context since 1998.)
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To: svcw; Quix; don-o

No, I seriously think that Benny Hinn was dropped here from Outer Space, so the Raelism may believe! We should have a {UFO Pentecostals} caucus to discuss that.


251 posted on 07/23/2010 2:42:30 PM PDT by Cronos (Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: greyfoxx39

well, it’s tricky, but you can talk about the TRinity without saying “xyz believes in this and are bloody wrong”! but seriously, i think the non-Trinitarians need a place to decide whether they beleive Jesus is God or not, and the nature of the Godhead according to themselves.


252 posted on 07/23/2010 2:47:53 PM PDT by Cronos (Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: greyfoxx39; Religion Moderator; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; ...

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE

ALL FREEPERS

EN MASSE

SUPPORT THE RM AND THE CAUCUS DESIGNATIONS AS DEFINED AND AS MANAGED.

NO SYSTEM OF MAN WILL EVER BE PERFECT.

This Rel Forum managed under this RM is as close to humanly perfect as I think it’s realistic to expect.

ENOUGH OF THIS CARPING ALREADY YET! SHEESH.

And JimRob, imho, and observations has enormous respect for the RM—OBVIOUSLY CLEAR from his public statements about the RM. HE IS NOT LIKELY AT ALL to trouble the RM and I find pinging Jim on such things to be almost harrassment of an already plenty beleagured Jim as well as insulting to the RM.

Sheesh.

The caucus threads have helped bring a MUCH NEEDED level of sanity to the Rel Forum. We do NOT want to go backwards! Sheesh!

Enough already yet with the carping about the caucus threads and their criteria and management. Grow up. Get a life. Go to Sam’s Club and buy several cases of CLUES or PERSPECTIVE.

Sheesh. GRRRR


253 posted on 07/23/2010 2:51:24 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Cronos
i think the non-Trinitarians need a place to decide whether they beleive Jesus is God or not, and the nature of the Godhead according to themselves.

Yeah, just discount 52,000 missionaries going out daily to tell Trinitarians that they are all wrong. The Non-Trinitarians who clamor to carry the same name that the Trinitarians do without "professing" as it were, are being given special status here. But that's OK...there IS a higher Judge, you know. ;)

It is all just SO familiar though.

254 posted on 07/23/2010 2:55:46 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Rush "They hate me because I am the most prominent, effective and unrelenting voice of conservatism")
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To: Quix
exploding head

This post is laughable from one who obviously takes the "freedom of FR speech" quite seriously and loves caps.

If you will check posting history, you will find that I regularly support the RM.

255 posted on 07/23/2010 3:02:54 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Rush "They hate me because I am the most prominent, effective and unrelenting voice of conservatism")
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To: Quix

Correct. There was a statement very recently regarding this issue. It could not have been more clear.


256 posted on 07/23/2010 3:03:53 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: greyfoxx39

I KNOW.

I forgot to take you out of the header.

I was spring boarding off your post vs trying to say something forceful to you.

Sorry.


257 posted on 07/23/2010 3:05:35 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix

I have to admit I was a little taken aback. Apology accepted, my FRiend.


258 posted on 07/23/2010 3:07:08 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Rush "They hate me because I am the most prominent, effective and unrelenting voice of conservatism")
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To: greyfoxx39; trisham

I should have pulled your name when I was pondering that issue. Instead, I went ahead and wrote my rant and then forgot to go back and pull your name before I hit post.

Thanks for your kind reply.

And your kind reply as well trisham;


259 posted on 07/23/2010 3:09:14 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: the_conscience; Religion Moderator
I'm glad you enjoyed the "ho." In real life (?) My initials are HO. This causes my alleged friends untold amusement.

Motive goes to "mens rea", to whether the caucus status is being used as a sword or as a shield, and so forth.

Moreover, among gentlemen, to enter into a conversation or a transaction with ulterior motives might be found a but caddish.

Not to be confused with kaddish, which is another thing altogether.

By the way, the judge in this case, that is, the RM, seems to have found that what you think a gnat was a real issue. That should count for something.

260 posted on 07/23/2010 3:11:38 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (O Maria, sine labe concepta, ora pro nobis qui ad te confugimus.)
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