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To: bkaycee
Hmmmm, Jesus rather seems to put His mother and siblings in their place more times than not.

Luke 11:27As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, "Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you." 28 He replied, "Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it."

Since Jesus had no blood sibling, I will pay attention to Mary's role and the context of Scripture.

Luke 11: has Jesus winding up into full preaching; the calling out was an irrelevancy in the context of his speech and he dismissed it in the context of his teachings. Read Luke 11: from beginning to end and see.

Luke 8: same thing.

Answer me this: if Jesus had no special relationship with his mother, then why would this exchange occur:

John 2: 1 1 On the third day there was a wedding 2 in Cana 3 in Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there. 2 Jesus and his disciples were also invited to the wedding. 3 When the wine ran short, the mother of Jesus said to him, "They have no wine." 4 4 (And) Jesus said to her, "Woman, how does your concern affect me? My hour has not yet come." 5 His mother said to the servers, "Do whatever he tells you." 6 5 Now there were six stone water jars there for Jewish ceremonial washings, each holding twenty to thirty gallons. 7 Jesus told them, "Fill the jars with water." So they filled them to the brim. 8 Then he told them, "Draw some out now and take it to the headwaiter." 6 So they took it. 9 And when the headwaiter tasted the water that had become wine, without knowing where it came from (although the servers who had drawn the water knew), the headwaiter called the bridegroom 10 and said to him, "Everyone serves good wine first, and then when people have drunk freely, an inferior one; but you have kept the good wine until now." 11 Jesus did this as the beginning of his signs 7 in Cana in Galilee and so revealed his glory, and his disciples began to believe in him.

If this passage is to be taken face value, then Mary goes to Jesus and says: Hey - do something!!!! We're here at this wedding and you're contributing nothing and they're outta wine. Get moving. Jesus says: No way. I'm not ready yet. Mary says to the wait staff: Get moving and do what He tells you to (and behind the scenes - get moving you). So Jesus gives them the best wine.

So on the face of it, Jesus disses his mother in public, but when it comes down to crunch time, He does what she asks. Yeah, that's putting her into place. And very Jewish, by the way...

7,152 posted on 08/05/2010 5:28:24 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
Hmmmm, Jesus rather seems to put His mother and siblings in their place more times than not.

Since Jesus had no blood sibling, I will pay attention to Mary's role and the context of Scripture.

The sons and daughters of Mary would be a whole other thread exposing the anochronistic interpretation by the RCC. Maybe another time.

Luke 11: has Jesus winding up into full preaching; the calling out was an irrelevancy in the context of his speech and he dismissed it in the context of his teachings. Read Luke 11: from beginning to end and see.

Strange, then how Luke thought it appropriate to include such an irrelevant exchange in his Gospel.

If this passage is to be taken face value, then Mary goes to Jesus and says: Hey - do something!!!! We're here at this wedding and you're contributing nothing and they're outta wine. Get moving. Jesus says: No way. I'm not ready yet. Mary says to the wait staff: Get moving and do what He tells you to (and behind the scenes - get moving you). So Jesus gives them the best wine.

So on the face of it, Jesus disses his mother in public, but when it comes down to crunch time, He does what she asks. Yeah, that's putting her into place. And very Jewish, by the way...

Answer me this: if Jesus had no special relationship with his mother, then why would this exchange occur:

He "disses" her more than once. Not sure how telling Jesus they are out of wine indicates a "special" relationship more so than any other relative or disciple. Did those around Jesus at the time of His other miracles also have a "special" relationship with Him?

Certainly Jesus loved His mother, but seemed to go out of His way to make clear that she was not part of His ministry. They relationship was that of Mother and Son.

She does seem to be the only He "disses" who is loosley connected to any of His miracles, which I believe is actually a subtle attempt by Jesus to prevent the inclination of some to elevate Mary to an object of worship of Mary.

7,233 posted on 08/06/2010 7:11:59 AM PDT by bkaycee
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