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To: Quix; Deo volente; Alamo-Girl; Mad Dawg; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond
The expression Theotókos, which literally means, “she who has begotten God”, can at first sight seem surprising; in fact it raises the question as to how it is possible for a human creature to give birth to God. The answer of the Church’s faith is clear: Mary’s divine motherhood refers only to the human begetting of the Son of God but not, however, to his divine birth. The Son of God was eternally begotten of God the Father, and is consubstantial with him. Mary, of course, has no part in this eternal birth. However, the Son of God assumed our human nature 2,000 years ago and was conceived by and born of Mary.

In proclaiming Mary “Mother of God”, the Church thus intends to affirm that she is the “Mother of the Incarnate Word, who is God”. Her motherhood does not, therefore, extend to all the Trinity, but only to the Second Person, the Son, who, in becoming incarnate, took his human nature from her.

And thus Mary is not "the Mother of God Almighty," as you allege, dear brother in Christ. Pope John Paul II makes this crystal clear in the above excerpt.

As Alamo-Girl has written, "I prefer the title 'Mother of the Incarnate Word,' Arius notwithstanding." If we all could take a page from John Paul II and stick with his authoritative, biblically-based understanding of the matter, there would probably be less confusion among co-religionists from different Christian confessions.

7,009 posted on 08/05/2010 10:26:32 AM PDT by betty boop (Those who do not punish bad men are really wishing that good men be injured. — Pythagoras)
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To: betty boop
If we all could take a page from John Paul II and stick with his authoritative, biblically-based understanding of the matter, there would probably be less confusion among co-religionists from different Christian confessions.

Indeed. Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dearest sister in Christ!

7,013 posted on 08/05/2010 10:40:16 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop

INDEED.

THX.


7,020 posted on 08/05/2010 11:00:08 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: betty boop
Her motherhood does not, therefore, extend to all the Trinity, but only to the Second Person, the Son, who, in becoming incarnate, TOOK HIS HUMAN NATURE FROM HER.

Pope John Paul II makes this crystal clear in the above excerpt. Why is it that the Pope's subjects CANNOT UNDERSTAND THIS?

NOT believing GOD's WORD is the FINAL AUTHORITY - will led to deception every time.
7,034 posted on 08/05/2010 11:29:52 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: betty boop; Quix; Deo volente; Alamo-Girl; Mad Dawg; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond
Little pedantic comment:

The expression Theotókos, which literally means, “she who has begotten God”,

No it doesn't ether. tokos pertains to birth, not to begetting. In medicine (speaks a guy who has many times had his hand up the wrong end of a ewe) dysTOCia (dis-TOE-shia) means a difficult birth, not a difficult begetting. The Latin term Deipara - is a good translation. Deigenetrix a little more abiguous, and HERE, maybe there could be seen, mistakenly, the idea that Mary 'begat' Jesus. But 'begetting' is a job for people of the guy persuasion.

7,051 posted on 08/05/2010 12:46:44 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee. here)
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I’m ok with “Mother of the Incarnate Word, who is God” —> that clearly states that Jesus is God, not a sub-god or a lesser god but God.


7,196 posted on 08/05/2010 9:56:49 PM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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