[lastchance]

and a P.S. Also unfortunately as there are secular Jews who no more believe in the teaching of Judaism than a Buddhist does there are secular Catholics who self identify as Catholics without any inkling at all about what being Catholic means in a religious context. They think of Catholic as being a cultural identity not a religious one. Think Pelosi.

[RnMomof7]

and a P.S. Also unfortunately as there are secular Jews who no more believe in the teaching of Judaism than a Buddhist does there are secular Catholics who self identify as Catholics without any inkling at all about what being Catholic means in a religious context. They think of Catholic as being a cultural identity not a religious one. Think Pelosi

Once a Catholic always a Catholic or so we are told. so it does not matter if a "Catholic" goes to mass every Sunday or knows or understands the doctrine of the church..they are still Catholics and are counted as catholics by the church which loves to put out its membership

Pelosi is considered a catholic by her Bishop.. and she does have that indelible mark

[Iscool]

Also unfortunately as there are secular Jews who no more believe in the teaching of Judaism than a Buddhist does there are secular Catholics who self identify as Catholics without any inkling at all about what being Catholic means in a religious context. They think of Catholic as being a cultural identity not a religious one. Think Pelosi.

But yet your religion's claim is that they are members of the Body of Jesus Christ, His church...

Can't happen...