[RnMomof7]

and a P.S. Also unfortunately as there are secular Jews who no more believe in the teaching of Judaism than a Buddhist does there are secular Catholics who self identify as Catholics without any inkling at all about what being Catholic means in a religious context. They think of Catholic as being a cultural identity not a religious one. Think Pelosi

Once a Catholic always a Catholic or so we are told. so it does not matter if a "Catholic" goes to mass every Sunday or knows or understands the doctrine of the church..they are still Catholics and are counted as catholics by the church which loves to put out its membership

Pelosi is considered a catholic by her Bishop.. and she does have that indelible mark

[lastchance]

First thing about the numbers, no they don’t come from members who have left, unless those numbers came from the parishs’ baptismal rol1s and it would not take long to figure out the rol1s include the names of many dead. The numbers probably come from the number of people who are active in the parishes but the Church does not swell her numbers to give a false impression of the number of faithful. How secular sources count members I don’t know. They may very well count anyone who claims to be Catholic no matter their practice and that would indeed swell the number.

And I’ll let the person who made the claim of once Catholic always Catholic expound on the reasoning behind it but I have a feeling it is about the fact that Being Baptized Catholic leaves a indelible mark on the soul that unites us with the Body of Christ (The Church) whether we keep to the faith or leave for a Protestant denomination or leave Christianity all together. It does not mean we are automatically faithful Catholics. To be a faithful Catholic takes more than being Baptized.

And if you are in outright disobedience to Church teachings yet still claim to be Catholic you are very simply an apostate and heretic. You should leave and stop saying you are what you are not.

And I have no idea how Pelosi’s Bishop views her. But there is unfortunately no guarantee or charism that an individual Bishop will not be a spineless fool who plays havoc with the souls of those entrusted to him and who disobeys the clear teachings of the magesterium. So yeah there have always been bad Bishops. How else do you think so many heresies and liturgical abuses ever get off the ground? So a Bishop can be wrong, wrong, wrong and that is to their great shame and to their own judgment.

Tell me where in the Bible do the words Bible Alone appear?
And using only the Bible can you defend the teaching that Jesus Christ is God? What if somebody can do the same to show that Jesus Christ is not God? What does that mean? How do you know who is right?

Also since you are so against Catholics you must be able to trace your beliefs to the beginings of Christianity. And give me the example of one early Christian writer (I’ll make it easy pick somebody before the Council of Nicea so you can’t spout that nonsense that the Constantine corrupted the Church) who teaches anything that can be clearly said to be uniquely Protestant in nature.