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To: OLD REGGIE
According to the CCC (Infallible-Yes?) the Church was built on the rock of the faith confessed by Peter never upon Peter himself.

You must not have read the entire excerpt you posted from the Catechism. Peter IS the rock upon which Christ built His Church. It's right there in front of you, plain as day.

"Christ, the 'living Stone',[1 Pet 2:4.] thus assures his Church, built on Peter, of victory over the powers of death. Because of the faith he confessed Peter will remain the unshakable rock of the Church."

Yes, it was because of his unshakable faith that Peter was chosen, but the Lord clearly made him the rock on which the Church was built. Simon's name was changed by Jesus to Peter, which in Aramaic means "rock". "Petros" is the Greek transliteration.
2,650 posted on 07/27/2010 11:57:55 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: Deo volente; OLD REGGIE

“Yes, it was because of his unshakable faith that Peter was chosen, but the Lord clearly made him the rock on which the Church was built. Simon’s name was changed by Jesus to Peter, which in Aramaic means “rock”. “Petros” is the Greek transliteration.”

Peter’s unshakable faith? Like when he denied Jesus three times just before His crucifixion? Um... OK.

http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/NTpdf/mat16.pdf

Now, I know that some Catholics aren’t concerned about the quality of their translations, that they don’t have a problem with poor translations, but just for the record, the Greek word for “Peter” is “petros”, and the Greek word for “rock” that Jesus used in saying *Upon this rock I will build my church* is “petra”.

Jesus didn’t say that He was going to build His church on a “petros” but on a “petra”.

More links to the Greek....

http://biblos.com/matthew/16-18.htm

http://biblelexicon.org/matthew/16-18.htm


2,657 posted on 07/27/2010 12:13:32 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Deo volente
You must not have read the entire excerpt you posted from the Catechism. Peter IS the rock upon which Christ built His Church. It's right there in front of you, plain as day.

"Christ, the 'living Stone',[1 Pet 2:4.] thus assures his Church, built on Peter, of victory over the powers of death. Because of the faith he confessed Peter will remain the unshakable rock of the Church."

Yes, it was because of his unshakable faith that Peter was chosen, but the Lord clearly made him the rock on which the Church was built. Simon's name was changed by Jesus to Peter, which in Aramaic means "rock". "Petros" is the Greek transliteration.

If by your reference to "excerpt" you are correct in that I didn't post the entire Catechism. However, I did post the only two references to "Peter" and "rock". Sheesh, what do you want from me.

Forgive me in advance but I am going to highlight the key words which deny your definition by large colored, and bolded script.

Ready now:

"Christ, the 'living Stone',[1 Pet 2:4.] thus assures his Church, built on Peter, of victory over the powers of death. Because of the faith he confessed Peter will remain the unshakable rock of the Church."

If you can't distinguish between "on" and "of" I can't help you. (Hint - "Because" is the qualifier")

2,689 posted on 07/27/2010 2:15:46 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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