To: aruanan
This Bible verse is irrelevant to the point in question. And yet Christ did mention John's status, and he was just the greatest of prophets. How much more than if Mary is the creature Catholics claim, that her Son made no reference to that fact? Made up doctrine.
2,611 posted on
07/27/2010 6:26:56 AM PDT by
xone
To: xone
Seriously, on the made up doctrine thing:
Do you check to make sure that the meat you eat was not killed by strangling? Do you avoid eating blood?
May I assume you are of Gentile background? If I may, then I have to ask if you think it's okay for Gentile Christians to neglect the dietary restrictions imposed by the Council of Jerusalem?
If so, then it would seem to be a "made up doctrine".
OR we could see in Acts 15 the beginning of the Church exercising one aspect of her Apostolic Charism by deciding a question of teaching and practice and promulgating it as seeming "good to the Holy Spirit and to us."
And, if so, then the sting of "made up" is not quite so bitter.
Or, I don't understand why you aren't checking to see how the meat you eat was slaughtered.
2,618 posted on
07/27/2010 7:15:49 AM PDT by
Mad Dawg
(O Maria, sine labe concepta, ora pro nobis qui ad te confugimus.)
To: xone
And yet Christ did mention John's status, and he was just the greatest of prophets. How much more than if Mary is the creature Catholics claim, that her Son made no reference to that fact? Made up doctrine.
Again, arguing by analogy or lack of analogy is a fallacy. Your strength of feeling on the matter doesn't overcome faulty logic. You could just as easily, and incorrectly, argue that since Jesus was claiming there was no greater prophet born of woman than John then he, who was spoken of in scripture as the prophet like Moses that God would raise up, was a lesser prophet than John; after all, Jesus was born of a woman and was contemporaneous with John.
People asked Jesus a question about John. He responded. No one at that time had a clue as to what the status of Jesus himself was since that was pre-resurrection. No one asked a similar question about Mary. The fact that Jesus said something about John's status among prophets doesn't have anything to do with Mary's standing amongst people in the world. You cannot use what he said or what he didn't say about one person in a particular instance to draw conclusions about another person. Well, you can do that, but it won't have any validity as far as coming to an accurate and truthful conclusion.
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