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To: caww; metmom; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights; OLD REGGIE; dsc; Deo volente; Mad Dawg; narses
Digressing a bit. While reading up on Geneva for the facts on Calvin's theocratic rule of the place, I found this interesting fact of modern-day Geneva:
While Geneva was historically considered a Protestant city, there are over twice as many Roman Catholics (39.5%) as Protestants (17.4%) living in the Canton. 22% of the inhabitants claim no religion. Some did not respond, and the remaining practice Islam (4.4%), Judaism (1.1%), or other religions
It seems like the ultimate result of protesting is to have 22% of the inhabitant claiming no religion. Protestantism with it's non-God derived legalism has the ultimate end of destroying all faith.
2,590 posted on 07/27/2010 2:45:42 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit)
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To: don-o; Mad Dawg; narses; Deo volente
One beautiful description I've just discovered is by Saint Bishop Theophan the Recluse in response to the question, "What is the relationship between the Divine provision and our free will?"
Answer: The fact that the Kingdom of God is "taken by force" presupposes personal effort. When the Apostle Paul says, "it is not of him that willeth," this means that one's efforts do not produce what is sought. It is necessary to combine them: to strive and to expect all things from grace. It is not one's own efforts that will lead to the goal, because without grace, efforts produce little; nor does grace without effort bring what is sought, because grace acts in us and for us through our efforts. Both combine in a person to bring progress and carry him to the goal. (God's) foreknowledge is unfathomable. It is enough for us with our whole heart to believe that it never opposes God's grace and truth, and that it does not infringe man's freedom. Usually this resolves as follows: God foresees how a man will freely act and makes dispositions accordingly. Divine determination depends on the life of a man, and not his life upon the determination

2,595 posted on 07/27/2010 3:39:54 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit)
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To: Cronos
If one puts out volumes of information it is sure to distract from the Inquisition happenings...I will determine later if or not I will reveal my sources...as these are so plentiful for any to inquire of online....you seem to be doing quite well disputing what I wrote without them...Do I post my resources so you can also dispute the credibility of these and divert attention away from the facts of History well recorded that there was the Inquisition and it was brutal and unyielding? Will see.
2,605 posted on 07/27/2010 4:41:23 AM PDT by caww
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To: Cronos; caww; metmom; wmfights; the_conscience; Quix; OLD REGGIE
"While Geneva was historically considered a Protestant city, there are over twice as many Roman Catholics (39.5%) as Protestants (17.4%) living in the Canton. 22% of the inhabitants claim no religion."

More selective reasoning from Rome. Does it surprise you that the Canton area of Geneva is heavily Roman Catholic and non-believing?

It shouldn't. The Canton of Geneva is the westernmost state of Switzerland, surrounded on almost all sides by France.

Since Rome slaughtered in their sleep thousands of men, women and children Protestants in France during the St. Batholomew's Day Massacre, it makes sense that this area of Switzerland remains Roman Catholic (and thus also unbelieving.)

2,667 posted on 07/27/2010 12:57:48 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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