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To: OLD REGGIE; small voice in the wilderness; metmom
"Hyperdulia" was a "smoke" distinction invented by Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologiae, A.D. 1270, to define the distinction between the "worship" of Jesus and the "worship" of Mary.

Thanks, I learned something new today.

2,289 posted on 07/26/2010 2:59:34 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights

INDEED.

When the whole edifice is mostly smoke and mirrors . . .

it’s kind of educational to learn where some of the smoke comes from.


2,300 posted on 07/26/2010 3:07:50 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: wmfights; Dr. Eckleburg
So, back again to my point, how exactly does a Calvinist hold in the same "group" as a Word-of-faith pente-costal that believes in something like the one from Kenneth Copeland:
The death of Jesus on the Cross did not pay the price for sins
"It wasn't the physical death on the cross that paid the price for sin..anybody could do that"

What Satan saw on the day of Pentecost

“Every prophet that walked the face of the earth under the Abrahamic covenant could have paid the price if it were a physical death only” “When he said ‘It is finished’ on that cross, he was not speaking of the plan of redemption. The plan of redemption had just begun, there were still three days and three nights to be gone through.” “[Jesus] accepted the sin nature of Satan in His own Spirit, and at the moment that He did so, He cried ‘My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?’.” “He [Jesus] was down in that pit and there he suffered the punishment for three horrible days and nights for Adam’s treason... There is a new birth takes place in the very depths of the earth, when the command of God says ‘That’s enough, loose him and let him go’.”

What Happened from the Cross to the Throne
2,321 posted on 07/26/2010 3:25:46 PM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit)
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To: wmfights

And that’s what this is ALL about. For people to learn something new every day. Maranatha!


2,328 posted on 07/26/2010 3:38:25 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: wmfights; OLD REGGIE; small voice in the wilderness; metmom
"Hyperdulia" was a "smoke" distinction invented by Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologiae, A.D. 1270, to define the distinction between the "worship" of Jesus and the "worship" of Mary.

Thanks, I learned something new today.

You learned that in 1270, about 250 years before Luther, Thomas Aquinas invented a term to confuse the issue about the worship paid to God and the worship paid to a creature -- why? So that 250 years later we Catholics would have something to say to non-Catholics to deny (falsely, it goes without saying) the charge that we pay Mary divine honors?

I don't get it.

2,366 posted on 07/26/2010 5:37:17 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (O Maria, sine labe concepta, ora pro nobis qui ad te confugimus.)
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