[Cronos]

You know, if anyone really bothers to find out the actual source, instead of listening to their hate-mongering pastors, one finds something quite different from the excerpts you've been given by some preacher.

What exactly does the Ubi Primum of Pope Pius IX say? (btw, you need to say which Ubi Primum of which Pope)

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You quoted from paragraph 5 which in it's entirety is as :
"And likewise in our own day, Mary, with the ever merciful affection so characteristic of her maternal heart, wishes,through her efficacious intercession with God, to deliver her children from the sad and grief-laden troubles, from the tribulations, the anxiety, the difficulties, and the punishments of God's anger which afflict the world because of the sins of men. Wishing to restrain and to dispel the violent hurricane of evils which, as We lament from the bottom of Our heart, are everywhere afflicting the Church, Mary desires to transform Our sadness into joy. The foundation of all Our confidence, as you know well, Venerable Brethren, is found in the Blessed Virgin Mary. For, God has committed to Mary the treasury of all good things, in order that everyone may know that through her are obtained every hope, every grace, and all salvation. For this is His will, that we obtain everything through Mary"

If you read the Entire encyclical you will see where he comes up with this statement -- from Biblical sources. On read prior council meetings you will see the same strain repeated throughout Church history

[small voice in the wilderness]

..seems to me the "entirety' makes it even WORSE than the "excerpts". BTW, hate mongering? How about truth searching?

If this isn't right, then by all means correct it.

[Iscool]

If you read the Entire encyclical you will see where he comes up with this statement -- from Biblical sources.

You need to come up with the biblical sources that back up your post...

We bible believers know there is nothing in the scriptures to even hint at what you posted...

Sadly, Catholics will eat it up; believe it and even repeat it just because it comes from your religion...And it is false...

So I challenge you to prove it with scripture...