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Yep. Since the English translation does a poor job of translating hyper0-dulia as worship you get your panties in a wad. Read the Latin, understand the difference between veneration and worship and then get back to us.

That which we call a rose by any other name.....

That which we call a rose by any other name.....

Nope. Sorry sister, but calling a rose a lily doesn't make it one, and claiming that veneration = worship doesn't make it so. That you have been told this again and again and you persist in misrepresenting the facts takes away any claim to truth or Christian fellowship you might make. How sad is that?

"Yep. Since the English translation does a poor job of translating hyper0-dulia as worship you get your panties in a wad. Read the Latin, understand the difference between veneration and worship and then get back to us."

That which we call a rose by any other name.....

In this instance the "poor job of translation" by the Vatican experts concerned the word "cultus". Methinks someone didn't pay attention and jumped the gun with a typically snarky response.

I will give the Vatican translators the benefit of believing the English words "worship", "devotion" and "veneration" (all valid definitions of cultus) are included in their vocabulary and the choice of "worship" was deliberate.

The fact is Latin is not the native language of any Pope, Bishop, Priest, or any of the Vatican Staff. The "pure" Latin documents from the Vatican are necessarily a translation from another language.

Does this mean, since all "official" Vatican Latin documents are a translation of a translation none of them can be trusted? :-)