To: wmfights; Dr. Eckleburg; OLD REGGIE; Quix; Iscool
GRoupings that reject free will and hold to unconditional election to salvation and damnation like the Calvinists are intrinsically different from all non-Calvinists, whether the Apostolic Church or Lutherans or Anglicans or Pentecostals or Arminian Baptists who believe that God chooses, for eternal salvation, those whom He foresees will have faith in Christ
The Calvinist viewpoint contradicts the Gospels which speak of a loving God and hence the Calvinist legal God of anger and not Love is pretty far from the Christian God as evidenced in those who do not hold to the idea of a God that damns
Pentecostals, Methodists, Free-will Baptists, etc all hold to a universal drawing and universal extent of atonement instead of the Calvinist doctrine that the drawing and atonement is limited in extent to the elect only.
2,029 posted on
07/25/2010 2:16:04 PM PDT by
Cronos
(Omnia mutantur, nihil interit)
To: Cronos
Irrespective of the mischaracterization of the Reformation position, what you failed to account for was the doctrine of Original Sin.
The Apostolic Church, via Augustine, and against the Pelegians, taught the total corruption of the imago dei that required an all encompassing grace to overcome.
When Rome returned to the Pelegian heresy it lost the essential aspect of the gospel which is God's love shown through free grace.
2,031 posted on
07/25/2010 2:33:14 PM PDT by
the_conscience
(We ought to obey God, rather than men. (Acts 5:29b))
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