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Testimony of a Former Irish Priest
BereanBeacon.Org ^ | Richard Peter Bennett

Posted on 07/18/2010 6:04:05 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

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To: Dr. Eckleburg; NYer; Salvation; Pyro7480; Coleus; narses; annalex; Campion; OpusatFR; ...
That is because the criticism is not leveled at individuals but at errant beliefs and practices.

Believe what you will.

Whereas RCs might do well to apologize since they repeatedly "make it personal" with individual slander.

By definition, slander is IMPOSSIBLE on FR.

4,261 posted on 07/30/2010 6:17:43 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
And I honestly could not care less about what you think about much of anything.

God turns the idolater from his statues and co-mediators, not me. I'm just tasked with preaching the Gospel in truth.

Since you say you are a Christian, that is your duty, too. Perhaps you might try it sometime when you're not busy on your knees saying all those prayers you took great pains to tell us about.

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4,262 posted on 07/30/2010 6:18:18 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
So your position is that the Roman "church" has authority to just make stuff up. Such as all the Pagan stuff in the fourth century and following.

Where in scripture does it say the Roman "church" can just make stuff up

INDEED.

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4,263 posted on 07/30/2010 6:19:38 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Gamecock

TRUE.

Your version IS more accurate.

God have mercy.

THX.


4,264 posted on 07/30/2010 6:20:55 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: wagglebee
By definition, slander is IMPOSSIBLE on FR.

Mark 5: 38 25 "You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' 39 But I say to you, offer no resistance to one who is evil. When someone strikes you on (your) right cheek, turn the other one to him as well. 40 If anyone wants to go to law with you over your tunic, hand him your cloak as well. 41 Should anyone press you into service for one mile, 26 go with him for two miles. 42 Give to the one who asks of you, and do not turn your back on one who wants to borrow. 43 27 "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' 44 But I say to you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your heavenly Father, for he makes his sun rise on the bad and the good, and causes rain to fall on the just and the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what recompense will you have? Do not the tax collectors 28 do the same? 47 And if you greet your brothers only, what is unusual about that? Do not the pagans do the same? 29 48 So be perfect, 30 just as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Let our pagan antagonists greet each other. Let us follow the words of Christ, not the words of men. Let us strive to imitate Christ, not Calvin. Let us greet our antagonists with Christian love and not the churlish hate that they have of the Church of Jesus Christ from the very Scripture that tells of our Creation by Him and the Commissioning by the Holy Spirit.

4,265 posted on 07/30/2010 6:23:23 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: wagglebee
You see, this statement about the Resurrection makes no mention of Him dying for our sins and you say (by the way, it [the resurrection] is not a miracle, God need not perform miracle on Himself) that we only need the fact that He rose from the dead.

Huh? The resurrection wasn't a miracle?

Was it the sign of Jonah?

This is pretty sad. RC apologists deny the resurrection was a miracle, but they think they see "miracles" all over the place in bleeding statues and burnt toast.

4,266 posted on 07/30/2010 6:24:55 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Gamecock; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

Has it seemed to y’all that in the last 30-60 days

an incredibly more frequent and

MUCH MORE
—intense
—deep rooted
—fiercely vicious
—rabidly hostile
—blindly spewing
—flailingly frothing
—harshly mean
—thoroughly nasty

etc.

collection of postings has become much more . . . common?

What is WITH that?

The Proddys haven’t changed.

Was it only the two threads about the priests leaving the VATICAN INSTITUTION?

Is that what set the demonized wailing off at such a fever pitch?

I can understand such well stated knowledgeable TRUTH upsetting the piles of deceptions . . . but goodness!

I thought more of the RC’s were MORE rational, more mature, more in control than these demonstrations indicate is the case.


4,267 posted on 07/30/2010 6:27:14 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: trisham
"You guys"? All of us?

Pardon me..."some" of you guys. :o)

4,268 posted on 07/30/2010 6:28:34 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

This is pretty sad. RC apologists deny the resurrection was a miracle, but they think they see “miracles” all over the place in bleeding statues and burnt toast.


SHEESH.

It is sure clear now that the FR RC contingent has taken up full time residence in Alice’s rabbit hole.

Incredible.


4,269 posted on 07/30/2010 6:29:05 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Deo volente

Folks, you won’t find the Trinity mentioned in the Bible! You can only get it through the Catholic Church!


You can get it from scripture

1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

It even tells you who to pray to and how

Mat 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
Mat 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
Mat 6:11 Give us this day our daily bread.
Mat 6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
Mat 6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

It also doesn’t include a Hail Mary

NOT ONE

I does however mention the queen of heaven .

Jer 7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.

It seems the LORD was not pleased when the people made offerings to her

Jer 7:19 Do they provoke me to anger? saith the LORD: do they not provoke themselves to the confusion of their own faces?

You can get a lot of things from the Catholic Church alright , many of which are not in scripture.


4,270 posted on 07/30/2010 6:33:51 PM PDT by Lera
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To: MarkBsnr
Paul would probably be best described as a traveling overseer or superintendent whose authority came from his being an apostle.
The term “bishop” is a rather unfortunate one, being used as a title so often.

In so far as ‘hair splitting” is concerned it was something Paul apparently felt necessary as he chastised those who might think of themselves as followers of him. (1 Cor. 1;10-17 and 3:1-9)

4,271 posted on 07/30/2010 6:35:31 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Lera; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ...

Jer 7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.

It seems the LORD was not pleased when the people made offerings to her

Jer 7:19 Do they provoke me to anger? saith the LORD: do they not provoke themselves to the confusion of their own faces?


INDEED.

Satanic seductions are alive and all too well in our era.


4,272 posted on 07/30/2010 6:38:09 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix
"Rarely do I see such incredible willful blindness, obstinancy, presumption of correctness within their own noggins etc."

Verbosity is not warranted. Speaking only for myselt it is a simple case of incredulity and contempt. But then again I've always had a very accurate Bravo Sierra detector.

4,273 posted on 07/30/2010 6:41:43 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: count-your-change
Paul would probably be best described as a traveling overseer or superintendent whose authority came from his being an apostle. The term “bishop” is a rather unfortunate one, being used as a title so often.

Negative. It is correct and well applied to Paul. Paul was also an active evangelist, who ordained bishops throughout his area, leading to the example of subordinate bishops. Not all bishops were Apostles - Timothy and Titus come to mind.

In so far as ‘hair splitting” is concerned it was something Paul apparently felt necessary as he chastised those who might think of themselves as followers of him. (1 Cor. 1;10-17 and 3:1-9)

There is a great difference between being the bishop of an area and having the people worship him. There are a few bishops in Church history who fell into that trap. Their skulls line the floor of hell...

4,274 posted on 07/30/2010 6:42:07 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Quix
EVEN IF THEY WERE SKEPTICAL

Yeah, but what's to be skeptical about? This is lunacy.

Given the behavior of some of the people in these debates, I could have said I'd looked up three Italian restaurants in the phone book and they'd still take umbrage and yell "liar!"

Completely nutty.

4,275 posted on 07/30/2010 6:49:29 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
"So your position is that the Roman "church" has authority to just make stuff up."

The Holy Spirit revealed the New Testament portion of written Word of God to mankind through His Church. Likewise, the Holy Spirit reveals the Holy Tradition portion of the Word of God through His same Church and the same process.

Again, where is Scripture does it say that the entire revealed Word of God is 100% contained within Scripture? Or were you just making that up? (Hint: the list you pasted earlier does NOT demonstrate that.)

4,276 posted on 07/30/2010 6:49:53 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Quix
Satanic seductions are alive and all too well in our era.

Indeed they are:


4,277 posted on 07/30/2010 6:50:44 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Okay. You say you do not know what Kepha(s) means. At the same time you assert vigorously the correctness of your opinion about word use in the Bible.

Had you said you knew what it meant, I would have based my next question on your answer. Since you present huge arguments about calling Peter rock, while denying knowledge of the meaning of the word John uses as Peter's cognomen, I must conclude that you are not a good source for knowledge of the things you make lengthy posts about.

After three or more rants and after I answer a question of yours, you say you do not know what the word means, and ask me more questions. I decline to answer them. I do not think this is a straight-ahead exchange.

4,278 posted on 07/30/2010 6:52:12 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (But wait! There's MORE! (NOW how much would you pray?))
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To: Quix
I think if we were willing to cast the sorts of aspersions on, say, speaking in tongues or on Scripture that some on your side cast on the Eucharist ...

If we invented and used terms like white hanky and magicsterial for important aspects of your belief system ...

If we persistently misrepresented what you hold dear ...

And especially if we ignored your arguments as some on your side ignore ours ...

You would see more rhetorical violence from the non-Catholics.

I know some on my side are aggressive. At this point there is too much blood on the ground for it to be too important to determine who started it.

The real question is who is going to try to stop it.

4,279 posted on 07/30/2010 6:52:33 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (But wait! There's MORE! (NOW how much would you pray?))
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To: Natural Law; 1000 silverlings
The Dr. E. drinking game is a hit around here. Every time she warns someone about the ruled we take a shot. Some here have lost entire weekends.

That explains SO MUCH.

It has long been suspected RC apologists PWD.

Thanks for confirming that fact.

4,280 posted on 07/30/2010 6:52:45 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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