Posted on 07/18/2010 6:04:05 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
I’m beginning to think the Vatican has vast warehouses of blasphemies and idolatries that they just keep adding to and dispensing from.
Incredible.
I know, Quix. I’m finding all sorts of interesting things from the Second Vatican Council. One after another. And I’m interested in knowing if Catholics know these things. And would be kind enough to explain them to us...If I’m going to be accused of not hearing or seeing, I at the very least want to know exactly what it IS that I’m not “getting”. Incredible is the word, dear brother. INCREDIBLE.
In my experience . . .
MOST RC’S DO *NOT* KNOW SUCH THINGS.
And you’ll get dozens of versions of such things from the folks who THINK they know or know something above average about such documents.
As we have seen hereon with the many dozens of versions of RC “Truth” . . . LOL. That’s become a huge joke to me.
There’s no such thing as VATICAN TRUTH. It’s a huge sham.
I used to think otherwise. RC’s hereon have demonstrated toooooooooooooooooooooo relentlessly otherwise. I now have to face the fact that it’s been persistently DEMONSTRATED by it’s most intense adherents to be an UTTER AND GROSSLY EXAGGERATED SHAM worse than the gross sham ran by the Jerusalem RELIGIOUS rulers 2000 years ago.
Very sad to me, actually.
Who was the Mother of Our Lord?
So you claim to be able to PROVE I am a liar. So prove it or apologize.
Here Jesus had the perfect opportunity to play off that and elevate Mary to the position which the Catholic church does, and He did not. HE put her back in her proper perspective, that is that she is no different than any other human being.
Like 11:27-28 As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, "Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you." He replied, "Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it."
God is no respecter of persons. We shouldn't be either.
LOL, nice cut-n-paste. You ignore, among many other parts of the Holy Writ the reality of Our Lord’s obedience - try the Miracle of Cana for one. Our Lord did the will of His Mother, even though He knew it was not His time yet.
According to the Catholic Church: "The Catholic Church has always and with justice put all her hope and trust in the Mother of God. She who is associated with him in the work of man's salvation has favor and power with her Son greater than any other human or angelic creature has ever obtained or ever can obtain."-Supreme Apostolatus. Pope Leo XIII.
I've asserted that Multiple RC posters over relentless posts have
DEMONSTRATED the falseness of that assertion in that post.
I stand by that. That post is utterly and unmitigatedly false.
Proddys have noted such contradictions and proofs dozens to hundreds of times hereon.
I have no need to track any of those proofs down.
I'm NOT YOUR LIBRARIAN, NOR YOUR FILE CLERK.
THE ONLY APOLOGIES WARRANTED ARE THOSE TO THE FATHER, SON, SPIRIT & MARY for the idolatries and blasphemies spewed relentlessly in Mary's name.
Of course the thin skinned RC's are still habitually proned to wail, whine and throw dust in the air on open threads in violation of Rel Forum rules and standards.
We understand the difficulty the rabid clique sorts of RC's have in following the rules hereon.
We understand the Vatican mentality that the Vatican SYSTEM and dogma places all RC's ABOVE everyone else--and everyone else's rules.
Still, it's quite laughable when the supreme pathetic nature of such ostentacious haughty arrogance is not focused on.
AS most folks who know me hereon are aware, I'm usually quite quick to apologize and usually quite humbly so when It's clear I'm wrong. In these sorts of cases, NO WAY JOSE! Those who !!!!DEMAND!!!! an unwarranted apology can go chase a duck, as mother would say.
BTW, I was reared, trained, conditioned, taught that
UNBIBLICAL SACRED COWS EXIST PRIMARILY TO BE GORED TO SHREDS.
I earnestly try to do my duty in such regards.
It also appears that a number of RC posters hereon have REFUSED . . .
abjectly REFUSED to pay attention to the Religion Moderator's exhortations about
the VERY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE between saying an assertion of the type: "That statement is false." vs "You are a liar."
And, instead, go running to JimRob like pouty spoiled 2 year olds wailing about the Religion Moderator he just recently asserted was doing a SUPURB JOB. I don't think of that as exceedingly bright, myself.
Ahhhhh welllll . . . most Proddys are not shocked any longer by the extremely poor reality testing of some of the rabid clique types. Neither do they stop by the taxidermy to get thicker skins NOR do they follow the RM's exhortations to avoid the open threads . . .
INSTEAD, they INSIST on relentlessly trying to drag the whole thread repeatedly to the STATION OF THE WHITE HANKY called THE ICON OF WAILING, WHINING, DUST THROWING LOWER LIPPINESS.
That's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IMPRESSIVE. LET ALL THE PRODDYS KOWTOW BOW TO THE FLOOR IN AWE./sar
BTW, perhaps the rabid cliques could get a group discount on dental forms to moderate teeth gnashing.
Quix wrote:
Thankfully, its virtually impossible to be ignorant about the idolatry and blasphemy that saturates the Vatican reps hereon vis a vis Mary etc.
Hey Quix, how about PUTTING UP OR SHUTTING UP?
FOR ONE, IT GETS EXCEEDINGLY BOTHERSOME TO YET AGAIN engage in the repeated futility of PROVING A LIST OF SUCH THINGS IN QUADRUPLICATE to RC's hereon . . . only to have the terminal epidemic denial to spew relentlessly forth in response for the umpteenth 10,000th time.
However, you could start by looking at the responses to these posts:
Here's the title:
And it carries the official sanctions of:
nihil obstat
n.
1. Roman Catholic Church An attestation by a church censor that a book contains nothing damaging to faith or morals.
2. Official approval, especially of an artistic work.
WITH RICHARD CARDINAL CUSHINGS IMPRIMATUR
Let me track down the brief portion of quotes upthread . . .
Here they are:
However, as we've seen through a variety of sources--a pile of them in Ferraro's manual about the Rosary--the Roman Catholic et al/Vatican Edifice disagrees with a lot of the claims of RC's hereon to the contrary.
p.32[Quixicated emphases below]
Mary is crowned Queen of heaven and earth, dispenser of all graces . . .
p32
4 - She became Queen of Purgatory, where she exercises her power as mediatrix in behalf of these suffering souls.
5 - She became Queen of us sinners, to assist us through the dangers of this life and to help us in difficulties.
6 - She became the ruler of hell, that trembles at her slightest gaze and is defeated by her power.
"Just as a rock extracted from earth will precipitate into the abyss, so will man, left without Mary's help, quickly slide toward hell." --Richard of St Victor
p37
Sacred Heart of Jesus, Thy kingdom come; Thy kingdom come through Mary! --Partial Indulgence
p41
"Mary is the tree of life to those who grasp her, and he is happy who hold her fast." --Prov. 3:18
p43
1 - "Hail Mary, beloved daughter of the Father, Mother of the Divine Son, Spouse of the Holy Spirit, complement of the most august Trinity!"
p45
6 - To her was granted grace greater than that conferred upon all others, 'that she might vanquish sin in every respect.' [Qx: I guess Christ's vanquishing sin was unnecessary--or ineffectual without Mary's assistance?]
p46
7 - "Mary is the dawn of God because, just as the dawn marks the end of darkness and the beginning of day, so Mary indicates the end of vices and the beginning of virtue." [Qx: I guess Christ's conquering on The Cross and HIS conquering trip to hell were unncessary?]
9 - God loved Mary so much that He gave her the keys to His heart. 'No one can go to God without Mary drawing him.' [Qx: I guess Holy Spirit has been relegated to a 'Walter Mitty' role as spouse of Mary? That's SOME POWER to cancel & take over HOLY SPIRIT'S role to draw men to God!]
p47
4 - "Mary, trusting in the word of the angel, destroyed the sin Eve committed by trusting in the serpent.' [Qx: Evidently, she beat Christ to the job of vanquishing sin!]
5 - "She desired the safety of everyone, went in search of it, and obtained it; it was also through her that this salvation was wrought." [QX: What an unnecessary waste of precious Blood and suffering on THE CROSS!!!/sar]
p47
10 - "As Noah's Ark saved all the animals that entered it, so Mary saves all the souls that entrust themselves to her care."
p50
8 - "If she were not so holy as she is, how could God appoint her to be the ladder of Paradise, the advocate of the world, meatrix between HIm and us?"
p50
4 - "By becoming Mother of God, Mary belongs to the order of hypostatic union; hence she participates IN the infinite sanctity of God."
Bzzzt, fail. Try again.
You accuse FREEPERS of sins, ON THIS THREAD. Put up or SHUT UP.
You hit a point that is so true for KV and I when we came home.
We were soooo fortunete to have a teacher (our Priest) take us both and for a year meeting one one one (two) teaching us.
I had to study 3hrs a week to pass his tests and move on to the next level.
And that was/is our exp. what your posted.
We can’t go to Mass due to being homebound with KV’s lifelong medical care needs to thrive.
We have gone to our Parish Mass when we can and it is awesome...our Church is so small KV’s chair barely fits inside.
KV did the Divine Mercy Devotion this year and so I took him on a long trip to Portland Oregons Grotto for Divine Mercy Sunday.
Those who can go to Mass should not take it for granted.
We are so thankful to God for Fr. and him coming to our home to bring Holy Eucharist every two weeks. It is a trip up the coast for him and he is 84 in earth years.
KV also had the oppertunity despite the physical endurance it took (and he was small enough I could lift him back then) to attend Fr. Max Kolbe Militia Immaculata Teen Camp two consecutive years in a row.
That gave him his “job” as a Prayer Warrior who lifts his suffering up in Prayer intentions and the all those who suffer in this world.
Awesome.
NONSENSE.
God could have easily raised up a rock to be a virgin descendent of David to fulfill the role.
God is NEVER limited by nor put in a bind by man’s choices.
NEVER.
The UNBIBLICAL Marian obsession is just that . . . an obsession from a demonic seduction from the pit.
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