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FATIMA LIKE MARIAN UFO INCIDENT
WITH STIGMATA RESULTING FROM
"THE CELESTIAL MOTHER."
Would appreciate RC comment.

1. Is there any evidence this fellow with the Stigmata has been vetted by the Vatican hierarchy as to any sort of pronouncement of authenticity etc?

2. Is there any evidence that the visitation/apparition is considered to be an authentic 'Mary' visitation/apparition?

3. Are there any FR RC's with relatives in that region of Italy who could give a report on the local reactions to such goings on?

4. What are your personal responses as you read such a narrative?

5. How do you integrate the associated UFO involvement with your construction on reality?

From post #704:

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A day in April, on the 5th in 1989, around noon, Giorgio left work to go on his lunch break. He noticed a Lady that seemed to be waiting for him near his car. He was astounded by the shine radiated by this Being, because the spring sun was high in the sky.

When he got closer, he realised that the Lady was hovering above the ground. She greeted him, told him her name was Myriam, and invited him to prepare himself for future encounters. Giorgio Bongiovanni was ecstatic, but upset.

He returned home, told everything to Lorella and rushed to call Eugenio Siragusa on the phone, who calmed him down explaining him that he had been visited by the Madonna.

More apparitions followed on, more and more intense until the moment in which the Virgin invited Giorgio Bongiovanni to go to Fatima, where she would have given him a sign for the whole humanity.

On September the 2nd 1989, Giorgio, accompanied by two Spanish friends, was kneeling down, below the great oak tree that dominates the sanctuary square. He brought red roses as a gift and waited, praying silently.

As promised the Celestial Mother called him; Giorgio, gone in ecstasy, saw once more the Sublime Being that asked him if he was willing to carry part of the anguish of Her Son.

Giorgio Bongiovanni agrees to the offer of the of the Virgin, and observed two rays of light departed from her chest, decorated with a white rose, that hit the palms of his hands. Giorgio fell backwards.

His friends drew closer to assist him, and saw on the back of his hands a sort of bulge that burst little by little, as if a nail pushed from the inside to the outside, to open up a deep wound that went across the palms fully. The pain was excruciating with a profound spiritual trauma.

Giorgio went back home where Lorella and Giovanni were waiting him, already eager to share the suffering and the blessing that the miracle of the stigmatas comprises in its mystery. Their lives changed forever.

The copious daily haemorrhage could even take place more than once a day and were extremely painful. It required a few hours for Giorgio to be able to recover.

Despite the attempts, he realised that he could not carry on with his job and was forced to sell his modest but profitable business.

From then on, every spiritual, physical, human and material resource of his, including what was lent or donated to him, was totally employed in the mission entrusted to him by the Virgin.

726 posted on 09/20/2010 9:54:07 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Quix

Alleged Vatican official?


728 posted on 09/20/2010 10:13:28 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: Quix
Is there any evidence this fellow with the Stigmata has been vetted by the Vatican hierarchy as to any sort of pronouncement of authenticity etc?

The individual in question does not have stigmata (he claims to have a bleeding cross inscribed on his forehead, which is not stigmatic). There is no need for the Vatican to "vet" him, his local bishop has already identified him as a scam artist. It would only be reviewed by the Vatican if there was some belief in its possible authenticity.

Is there any evidence that the visitation/apparition is considered to be an authentic 'Mary' visitation/apparition?

None whatsoever. "Celestial Mother" has never been one of the titles ascribed to Mary by traditional Catholicism, and the "revelations" this hoaxter has made are contrary to the tenets of orthodox Christianity.

Are there any FR RC's with relatives in that region of Italy who could give a report on the local reactions to such goings on?

I have friends who live in Sicily and I doubt they've ever heard of him. I'll check.

What are your personal responses as you read such a narrative?

That this is an obvious scam.

How do you integrate the associated UFO involvement with your construction on reality?

Since it isn't real, it has no effect on my "construction of reality."

730 posted on 09/20/2010 10:22:45 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Quix

Oh for Heaven’s Sake!

More nonsense.


767 posted on 09/21/2010 5:41:16 AM PDT by Global2010
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