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To: MarkBsnr
If I take an engineering project proposal to the Board on metaphysical terms, I would be immediately fired.

As humans we live in both the human realm and the Godly/Metaphysical one. And God helps us bridge the gap.

That said, it is better to starve in the human one than sin against the Godly one, isn't it. Luckily, for most of us, our jobs don't make us choose between them.

However, what if your superiors asked you to design an engineering project that you believe violates His will. Such a project would be rejected by you altogether, wouldn't it.

In my career, I have rejected many assignments because I thought they were wrong--and usually my superiors came to see the efficacy of such decisions. And even when they didn't, they came to respect my desire to do what is right.

My experience is that God's will is also good for companies and certainly the customers they serve.

Long story, short...as a retired executive, I would certainly want the men and women working under my direction to be directed by their consciences FIRST and by sound business, engineering and financial principles SECOND.

As to your point about space aliens, I also tend to think that what is being experienced and observed are NOT space aliens.

BTW, I focus my attention not on what people have observed visually but on those individuals who believe they have been part of a lifetime abduction process.

The most authoritative accounts and those which seem most self-evidently accurate are those recorded by John Mack and Budd Hopkins.

Clearly something has happened to these people. And because the accounts are consistent down to the tiniest details and over long periods of time--in some cases, over the entire lifetimes of multiple generations of some families--one can safely conclude that what is happening has been confirmed by many, many witnesses.

Now to what is happening!

It is rather clear that the abductees are being subjected to a kind of collective rape and the experiences violate all manner of the standards of decency we humans hold dear. It is in fact possible (in a metaphysical sense--call it conscience if you wish) for those who pore over the vast collections of abductions accounts to reach only one conclusion--such abduction are inherently evil.

In fact, they are evil to a Satanic degree.

For that reason, I tend to believe these creatures who claim during abductions to be "aliens" are most like what have been described Biblically as fallen angels--creatures which exist in a spiritual realms yet can either interact with this realm or actually enter it.

As Allan Hynek came to believe, these beings are not extra-terrestrial, but extra-dimensional.

Now, is it possible that these abduction experiences are actually the result of childhood abuse or even Satanic ritual abuse (as some have suggested)?

I believe that is possible. But that still doesn't explain the physical scars and multiple witnesses to such accounts (when two or more people claim to have been collectively abducted).

All said...this is a very real phenomena and an enigmatic one. But because we lack the evidence to absolute define it does not mean that sensible people can ignore it or pretend it isn't happening or to deny the great pain it is causing some among us.

Sorry for the long answer, but I hope it clarifies the reasons some of us are part of these threads.

227 posted on 07/11/2010 5:15:38 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Does building demolition count as a Muslim engineering achievement?)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

INDEED.

GOOD POINTS.

THX.


232 posted on 07/11/2010 5:30:12 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
That said, it is better to starve in the human one than sin against the Godly one, isn't it. Luckily, for most of us, our jobs don't make us choose between them.

However, what if your superiors asked you to design an engineering project that you believe violates His will. Such a project would be rejected by you altogether, wouldn't it.

Oddly enough, this has never happened. Either that or I have been able to run the project in such a way that it did not violate any ethics or morality that I have.

My experience is that God's will is also good for companies and certainly the customers they serve.

Agreed. I find this also.

For that reason, I tend to believe these creatures who claim during abductions to be "aliens" are most like what have been described Biblically as fallen angels--creatures which exist in a spiritual realms yet can either interact with this realm or actually enter it.

If they enter this realm, then they can be dealt with as an entity within the realm. If they can be dealt with, then they can be subdued, held, immobilized or killed. Then we can deal with the analysis of them. If we can analyze them, then we can find a methodology in which we can repel them effectively.

All said...this is a very real phenomena and an enigmatic one. But because we lack the evidence to absolute define it does not mean that sensible people can ignore it or pretend it isn't happening or to deny the great pain it is causing some among us.

OK, something is happening. The explanations of that something leave much to be desired such as clarity. If something has happened to the degree that it has, for the time that it has, and to the great number of people that it has, why is there no clear explanation of the phenomenon?

Sorry for the long answer, but I hope it clarifies the reasons some of us are part of these threads.

Appreciate the response. I believe that something is happening. I am just not satisfied with the lack of proof, data and information about what that something is.

239 posted on 07/11/2010 9:31:07 AM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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