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To: SonOfDarkSkies
That said, it is better to starve in the human one than sin against the Godly one, isn't it. Luckily, for most of us, our jobs don't make us choose between them.

However, what if your superiors asked you to design an engineering project that you believe violates His will. Such a project would be rejected by you altogether, wouldn't it.

Oddly enough, this has never happened. Either that or I have been able to run the project in such a way that it did not violate any ethics or morality that I have.

My experience is that God's will is also good for companies and certainly the customers they serve.

Agreed. I find this also.

For that reason, I tend to believe these creatures who claim during abductions to be "aliens" are most like what have been described Biblically as fallen angels--creatures which exist in a spiritual realms yet can either interact with this realm or actually enter it.

If they enter this realm, then they can be dealt with as an entity within the realm. If they can be dealt with, then they can be subdued, held, immobilized or killed. Then we can deal with the analysis of them. If we can analyze them, then we can find a methodology in which we can repel them effectively.

All said...this is a very real phenomena and an enigmatic one. But because we lack the evidence to absolute define it does not mean that sensible people can ignore it or pretend it isn't happening or to deny the great pain it is causing some among us.

OK, something is happening. The explanations of that something leave much to be desired such as clarity. If something has happened to the degree that it has, for the time that it has, and to the great number of people that it has, why is there no clear explanation of the phenomenon?

Sorry for the long answer, but I hope it clarifies the reasons some of us are part of these threads.

Appreciate the response. I believe that something is happening. I am just not satisfied with the lack of proof, data and information about what that something is.

239 posted on 07/11/2010 9:31:07 AM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
The explanations of that something leave much to be desired such as clarity. If something has happened to the degree that it has, for the time that it has, and to the great number of people that it has, why is there no clear explanation of the phenomenon?

Yep!

There has been a huge amount of disinformation and just plain hysteria surrounding this issue...but I guess that is just human nature.

The hysteria is easy to understand when one considers that, at one end of the human response continuum, this matter is perceived as utterly silly, while at the other end, it is so profoundly frightening that some people (abductees for example) find their lives and very concept of reality devastated.

BTW, David Jacobs (a professor of history at Temple Univ) has been studying this phenomenon from the cultural POV (i.e. he has kept his day job by saying he is studying the effects on popular culture of the phenomenon without addressing whether or not the phenomenon is real or imagined--initially at least).

I disagree with Jacob's treatment of the "aliens" as, well, space aliens (as you and I discussed)...but I think you'll find he has a rational and intelligent approach to this issue.

Quix has some links to some good youtube interviews with Jacobs (you can probably find them via a standard youtube search).

Anyway, best of luck separate the wheat from the chaff!

244 posted on 07/11/2010 10:01:28 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Does building demolition count as a Muslim engineering achievement?)
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