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Alleged Vatican Official Says Extraterrestrials Are Real
The Eponymous Flower ^ | 07/08/2010 | Tancred

Posted on 07/08/2010 8:54:20 AM PDT by 0beron

Edited on 07/08/2010 9:57:44 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

"Vatican Officials" say a lot of things. This man who is said to be an expert in demonology also claims to be an expert on the phenomenon of intelligent extraterrestrial life. We say they are supernatural in origin and the appearance of strange and foreboding lights in the sky are unfavorable signs.

Monsignor Corrado Balducci, a theologian member of the Vatican Curia (governing body), and an insider close to the Pope, has gone on Italiannational television five times, including recent months, to proclaim that extraterrestrial contact is a real phenomenon. Balducci provided an analysis of extraterrestrials that he feels is consistent with the Catholic Church's understanding of theology. Monsignor Balducci emphasizes that extraterrestrial encounters "are NOT demonic, they are NOT due topsychological impairment, they are NOT a case of entity attachment, but these encounters deserve to be studied carefully." Since Monsignor Balducci is a demonology expert and consultant to the Vatican , and since the Catholic Church has historically demonized many new phenomena that were poorly understood, [Like the historical propensity for the press to be leftist deceivers who herald new phenomena like Communism as saviours of mankind.] his stating that the Church does not censure these encounters is all the more remarkable.

Balducci revealed to a visiting American professional that the Vatican is closely following this phenomenon quietly. My informant originally surmised that the Vatican is receiving much information about extraterrestrials and their contacts with humans from its Nunciatures (embassies) in various countries.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: aliens; angels; corradobalducci; demons; extraterrestrials; napolitano; ufo; ufos
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To: small voice in the wilderness
I understand your questioning of the word.

Careful with such statements. I do not question the word of God. I do question the KJV, which is proven to be at variance with earlier translations in a number of verses throughout.

But trust me, I wouldn’t use it if God’s Word didn’t say it!

Again, be careful with such statements. You quoted Paul to me from the KJV. The Word of God is Jesus. Paul is not Jesus. I would ask that you be more precise in your descriptions. The Word of God did not say the words that you said He did, even if the KJV were correct.

181 posted on 07/10/2010 6:31:26 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: stfassisi
I myself don't believe that extraterrestrials exist. Over the years I've come to the opinion that any extraterrestrials we might encounter will likely be either a) human beings that were somehow "separated" from us here on earth, or b) "wise beasts" -- that is, animals with reason but without conscience.

I suspect that in time we will find lower forms of life (e.g. bacteria, amoebæ, etc.) upon the various planets and moons of our own solar system; however, these will in my estimation almost certainly be organisms native to Earth which have traveled through space to our sister worlds by mean of meteoric impact debris and which have over time become adapted to their new environments.

Of course, to date we have no evidence that life of any kind exists elsewhere in the universe.

As for UFOs: I'm almost certain that the genuine sightings are of advanced-technology aerospacecraft of human origin, created by and operated on behalf of a power group or groups that exist "behind the scenes" (i.e. outside of the ostensible power structure).

182 posted on 07/10/2010 6:45:37 PM PDT by B-Chan
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To: MarkBsnr
The Word of God did not say the words that you said He did, even if the KJV were correct.

I would really ask that you explain this clearly. If I am quoting scripture, it IS the Word of God. Rather through Paul, Peter, or Christ.

183 posted on 07/10/2010 6:48:42 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: Quix
However, as Ronald Reagan said publically FIVE TIMES—imagine how the world would unify if there was a threat from ET’s.

Many of us are convinced he was signalling what is coming down the Pike.

I pay more attention to the lives of Saints and Martyrs than to a divorced hollywood actor turned politician

Perhaps it would do you well to do the same

184 posted on 07/10/2010 6:49:38 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: B-Chan

Good post, as always,dear friend


185 posted on 07/10/2010 6:52:53 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: small voice in the wilderness
I would really ask that you explain this clearly. If I am quoting scripture, it IS the Word of God. Rather through Paul, Peter, or Christ.

Negative. The Word of God is Jesus; the word of God is Scripture.

John 1: 1 1 2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 3 All things came to be through him, and without him nothing came to be. What came to be 4 through him was life, and this life was the light of the human race; 5 4 the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

Jesus is God and Jesus is the Word. The words of Jesus in the NT are the pinnacle of God's revelation to us and must be treated more reverently than the words of men such as Peter, Paul and James. Jesus is God. The Apostles are not. Their words are subordinate to Christ's. There are many who believe that every single word in the Bible is equal to every other. That means that the words of the Chronicler in 1 Chronicles 25 are equivalent to those of the Beatitudes, for instance. That is not the belief of the Apostles; that is not the belief of Christianity.

There are many, for instance who take Paul's words to be of more relevance than those of Jesus. These are Paulians, and not Christians and various groups of these have been condemned as heretical mostly in the first millennium by the Church.

186 posted on 07/10/2010 7:06:19 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
I would really ask that you explain this clearly. If I am quoting scripture, it IS the Word of God. Rather through Paul, Peter, or Christ.

Negative. The Word of God is Jesus; the word of God is Scripture.

John 1: 1 1 2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 3 All things came to be through him, and without him nothing came to be. What came to be 4 through him was life, and this life was the light of the human race; 5 4 the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

Jesus is God and Jesus is the Word. The words of Jesus in the NT are the pinnacle of God's revelation to us and must be treated more reverently than the words of men such as Peter, Paul and James. Jesus is God. The Apostles are not. Their words are subordinate to Christ's. There are many who believe that every single word in the Bible is equal to every other. That means that the words of the Chronicler in 1 Chronicles 25 are equivalent to those of the Beatitudes, for instance. That is not the belief of the Apostles; that is not the belief of Christianity.

There are many, for instance who take Paul's words to be of more relevance than those of Jesus. These are Paulians, and not Christians and various groups of these have been condemned as heretical mostly in the first millennium by the Church.

187 posted on 07/10/2010 7:11:18 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: stfassisi

There’s a couple of examples of demonized persons in the NT proclaiming that Jesus was the Son of God . . .

And, a couple of my Mother’s cousins found themselves in Montana or Wyoming without any money.

So they staged a Revival. Neither one of them were walking with God at the time. But they’d grown up in it and knew all the jargon and buttons to push. One played guitar and sang well. The other preached pretty well.

They took an offering and went on their way.

Years later, they’d still run into folks who were saved in that phoney Revival.

The worst Deception is that which is just a bit of a deviation from the truth.

Or . . . one which seduces to a phoney icon of the real.


188 posted on 07/10/2010 7:25:41 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: B-Chan

A vast amount of quality evidence casts your speculations, assumptions in an extremely poor light.

Certainly time will tell.


189 posted on 07/10/2010 7:27:19 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: stfassisi

I gather you are asserting that

FR ICON RONALD REAGAN

1. WAS NOT IN A POSITION AS PRESIDENT to have a clue about the topic.

2. WAS LYING

3. Was being devious for unknown reasons

4. was, regardless, not speaking rationally to warn us of anything.

5. was not under any circumstances for any reason trying to signal the American populace or the world of anything because he didn’t care about American that much.


Personally, if you cling to any of the above, I’ll have to reduce my respect for your understanding of the topic quite a number of notches.


190 posted on 07/10/2010 7:29:53 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: B-Chan

CERTAINLY

THE ELITES, THE SHADOW GOVERNMENT, THE GLOBALISTS

HAVE BEEN IN IRON GRIP CONTROL OF THE UFO TECHNOLOGIES FOR MORE THAN 60 YEARS.

And they’ve killed a lot of people to maintain that iron grip control.


191 posted on 07/10/2010 7:36:23 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: MarkBsnr

I’m not going to start arguing dotted i’s and crossed t’s with you. If you want to discuss the thread, I’m interested, if you want to argue with me about Word, word, Jesus, Scripture, I’m not interested. I don’t want to be pecked near death with your unending interest in all details under the sun that can be argued. You’re exhausting, that way.;)


192 posted on 07/10/2010 7:36:43 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: stfassisi; ALASKA; A knight without armor; areafiftyone; aruanan; A South Park Republican; auggy; ..

For someone to attribute Fatima to the work of satan is NO different than the Pharisees attributing Christ;s miracles to the work of satan.


THAT’S WHOLESALE INACCURATE, WRONG, UNTRUE.

As the top flight Portugese investigators have documented . . . there’s FAR MORE data points in common—virtually identical in probably more than 95% of the data points—identical with typical UFO events—in the Fatima incidents . . . than there are congruencies between Fatima and any Biblical phenomena.

The Vatican did QUITE A NUMBER on the experiencers and on the story—morphing into THEIR icons, themes, dogma very early on.

Thankfully, the investigators had access to the archives in Portugal as well as to still living witnesses. A far different picture emerged from meticulous research, than the fantasies scripted by the Vatican agents.


193 posted on 07/10/2010 7:40:50 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

THANK YOU.

It’s wonderful that others can see reality.

Sometimes it seems that some folks hereon have a PhD in chronic futility as a ‘discussion’ mode.


194 posted on 07/10/2010 7:43:09 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix
You're most welcome!

I call it an ability to be endlessly fascinated by ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

It just wears me down!

195 posted on 07/10/2010 7:46:16 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: bibletruth

That about sums it up nicely.


196 posted on 07/10/2010 7:59:26 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

Excellent.

People are too gullible. I can’t get over what they will believe. Someone comes along, claims they saw something *spiritual* or something, and BAM, they’ve got a following.

FWIW, I see this increased belief in ETs as necessary to explain away the Rapture. I think that they will be blamed for it and the antichrist will use it as a rallying point to unite the world against this new threat.

Likely that ties into the use of the 666 mark as well. I just had a thought on how that would work together and need to figure out how to explain it clearly.


197 posted on 07/10/2010 8:04:31 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Can't wait to hear your thoughts. I thinks it's going to be all about 'visions' and 'miracles' in the air..

We will compare notes on our thoughts about this. MOST INTERESTING!

198 posted on 07/10/2010 8:09:19 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
I’m not going to start arguing dotted i’s and crossed t’s with you. If you want to discuss the thread, I’m interested, if you want to argue with me about Word, word, Jesus, Scripture, I’m not interested. I don’t want to be pecked near death with your unending interest in all details under the sun that can be argued. You’re exhausting, that way.;)

Well, you asked...

199 posted on 07/10/2010 8:12:58 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness; Quix
I call it an ability to be endlessly fascinated by ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

The revelation of Jesus is absolutely nothing? Interesting take on Christianity...

200 posted on 07/10/2010 8:14:20 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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