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To: svcw; Flightdeck; Quix; Edward Watson

I tend to agree with you, svcw

A more typical example of "intemperate" (I would have chosen the term "overwought") that really does get posted in this forum, might be:

or

 

It never ceases to amaze me how many FR RF posters fail to provide actual examples of the kind of "intemperance," "intolerance," or wrongful deprivation of there "right to worship" they say exists in these threads.

Pro'ly because of loads of innate temperance.

308 posted on 07/06/2010 1:17:55 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: delacoert

I remember that EW post. He hasn’t been around much anymore. He was kinda fun.


329 posted on 07/06/2010 1:47:53 PM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: delacoert; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...
Cue crying little girl.

Refer to taxidermist for thicker skin.

It's fascinating to me . . .

how many RC's rant on and on and on and on

about "intemperance" and "indiscretion"

yet hold to such things as:

Here's the title:

http://www.amazon.com/Ten-Meditations-Mysteries-Rosary-Ferraro/dp/0819801577/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1272938246&sr=1-2

And it carries the official sanctions of:

ni•hil ob•stat
n.
1. Roman Catholic Church An attestation by a church censor that a book contains nothing damaging to faith or morals.
2. Official approval, especially of an artistic work.

WITH RICHARD CARDINAL CUSHING’S IMPRIMATUR

Let me track down the brief portion of quotes upthread . . .

Here they are:

However, as we've seen through a variety of sources--a pile of them in Ferraro's manual about the Rosary--the Roman Catholic et al/Vatican Edifice disagrees with a lot of the claims of RC's hereon to the contrary.

p.32[Quixicated emphases below]
Mary is crowned Queen of heaven and earth, dispenser of all graces . . .

p32
4 - She became Queen of Purgatory, where she exercises her power as mediatrix in behalf of these suffering souls.

5 - She became Queen of us sinners, to assist us through the dangers of this life and to help us in difficulties.

6 - She became the ruler of hell, that trembles at her slightest gaze and is defeated by her power.

"Just as a rock extracted from earth will precipitate into the abyss, so will man, left without Mary's help, quickly slide toward hell." --Richard of St Victor

p37
Sacred Heart of Jesus, Thy kingdom come; Thy kingdom come through Mary! --Partial Indulgence

p41
"Mary is the tree of life to those who grasp her, and he is happy who hold her fast." --Prov. 3:18

p43
1 - "Hail Mary, beloved daughter of the Father, Mother of the Divine Son, Spouse of the Holy Spirit, complement of the most august Trinity!"

p45
6 - To her was granted grace greater than that conferred upon all others, 'that she might vanquish sin in every respect.' [Qx: I guess Christ's vanquishing sin was unnecessary--or ineffectual without Mary's assistance?]

p46
7 - "Mary is the dawn of God because, just as the dawn marks the end of darkness and the beginning of day, so Mary indicates the end of vices and the beginning of virtue." [Qx: I guess Christ's conquering on The Cross and HIS conquering trip to hell were unncessary?]

9 - God loved Mary so much that He gave her the keys to His heart. 'No one can go to God without Mary drawing him.' [Qx: I guess Holy Spirit has been relegated to a 'Walter Mitty' role as spouse of Mary? That's SOME POWER to cancel & take over HOLY SPIRIT'S role to draw men to God!]

p47
4 - "Mary, trusting in the word of the angel, destroyed the sin Eve committed by trusting in the serpent.' [Qx: Evidently, she beat Christ to the job of vanquishing sin!]

5 - "She desired the safety of everyone, went in search of it, and obtained it; it was also through her that this salvation was wrought." [QX: What an unnecessary waste of precious Blood and suffering on THE CROSS!!!/sar]

p47
10 - "As Noah's Ark saved all the animals that entered it, so Mary saves all the souls that entrust themselves to her care."

p50
8 - "If she were not so holy as she is, how could God appoint her to be the ladder of Paradise, the advocate of the world, meatrix between HIm and us?"

p50
4 - "By becoming Mother of God, Mary belongs to the order of hypostatic union; hence she participates IN the infinite sanctity of God."

At some point, words fail me.

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I'm pretty sure that WHEN . . . IF . . .

SUCH IDOLATROUS, BLASPHEMOUS INTEMPERATE ASSERTIONS by so many RC's become absent on the FR RF, that my fiercely calling attention to such will be difficult to find, too.

UNTIL THEN, I find it totally disingenuous; hypocritical; a gross double standard and pathetically hilarious that ANY RC would let out a peep about "INDISCRETIONS" in posting AND "INTEMPERATE" postings.

It's difficult to think of brazen text that could be any MORE intemperate than to assert that NO ONE CAN GO TO GOD EXCEPT Mary DRAW HIM . . . or that MARY PARTICIPATES IN THE INFINITE SANCTITY OF GOD!

WHAT AN INTEMPERATE SCREAMING-OFFENSE-TO-GOD-OUTRAGE!

519 posted on 07/06/2010 5:06:38 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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