On intemperate and indiscreet zeal. (The Primary Fault of many Religion Forum posters)

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[restornu]

So now if one communed aka talked to someone they are communist weird!

[Mad Dawg]

(I like to say, There is nothing you need to do to be saved. And nothing is very hard to do.)

[Mrs. Don-o]

You’re right, if what you mean is “superhuman” or “demigod” or something. That’s bad... from my experience as a diva!

[restornu]

Yep it is a real eye opener!

Always haveing that vague feeling but just never could not put ones finger on it...

[restornu]

So this to you is your Chirst like version...

[svcw]

Are you going to report these guys?

"Babylon, literally understood, is the gay world; spiritual wickedness, the golden city, and the glory of the world, The priests of Egypt, who received a portion gratis from Pharaoh; the priests of Baal, and the Pharisees, and Sadducees, with their "long robes," among the Jews, are equally included in their mother's family, with the Roman Catholics, Protestants, and all that have not had the keys of the kingdom and power thereof, according to the ordinances of God."

- Prophet John Taylor, Times and Seasons, Vol.6, No.1, p.939

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"Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the "whore of Babylon" whom the Lord denounces... as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. And any person who shall be so wicked as to receive a holy ordinance of the gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent of the unholy and impious act. If any penitent believer desires to obtain forgiveness of sins through baptism, let him beware of having any thing to do with the churches of apostate Christendom, lest he perish in the awful plagues and judgments, denounced against them. The only persons among all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people who have authority from Jesus Christ to administer any gospel ordinance are those called and authorized among the Latter-day Saints. Before the restoration of the church of Christ to the earth in the year 1830, there have been no people on the earth for many generations possessing authority from God to minister gospel ordinances. We again repeat. Beware of the hypocritical false teachers and imposters of Babylon!

- Apostle Orson Pratt The Seer, Vol.2, No.4, p.255

[Tennessee Nana]

Or maybe he didn’t lose her. maybe that’s it ....
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That’s it...exactly...

However the mormons claim He did...

They believe that Jesus had a runaway Bride...

or He lost her

or someone stole her...

Ho dropped her...

He misplaced her...

God was so careless...

That He needed a mere human, Joey Smith to “restore” His bride back to where she bel;onged...

Hows that for watering down the Gospel and the power and ability of God Almighty...

Our God is an Awesome God...

but a bit of a butterfingers ???

But thats just what mormons believe...

Christians believe that God has always been from everlasting...

The Trinity...

God the Father, God the Son, Jesus, the Lamb of God, and God the Holy Ghost or Spirit...

Christians believe that Jesus built His Church, the Bride of Christ and she never left or went anywhere...

The Bride has been around for these 2,000 years...

For God is able to keep her intact and not ever the powers or gates of Hell can prevail against her...

Hell has not made inroads into the Church of Christ..

and Hell will NEVER take her out...

Therefore there has NEVER been any reason for a criminal like Joey Smith to have to come to God’s rescue and “restore” any part of the Kingdom of God...

The very thought is laughable at the least...

and blasphemy at its worse...

Thats why God destroyed the false prophet Joey Smith...

Smith had boasted he was greater than the LORD Jesus Christ...

Joey Smith did a Lucifer...

and he got Lucifers reward...

Joey Smith got tossed out of this world by God...

Just as Lucifer was tossed out of Heaven..

God will not stand for anyone, man or angel attempting to usurp His throne ...

and God will not stand for anyone claiming to be greater that Jesus...

and God will not stand for anyone claiming to be able to become a god ..

Every name is under the Name of JESUS...

and that includes the name Joseph Smith Junior, the charlatan who would be God...

That didnt turn out so well for him...

and it wont turn out so well for any of Smith’s disciples...

all those millions of people who have been fooled into worshipping the beast through Joey Smith..

instead of the Savior, the LORD Jesus Christ, are doomed to Hell...

Only those who worship Jesus alone, can be saved...

God is a jealous God ...

and he will not share His throne with anyone...

let alone an evil demon possessed piece of trash like Joey Smith, the pedophile, thief and murderer..

The LORD Jesus Christ is the only one who suffered through the whipping post, and on the Cross, and shed His Blood on the Cross, and died on the Cross and was resurrected on the third day to save us...

When Jesus cried IT IS FINISHED from the Cross, it was finished...

Jesus finished the work of salvation for everyone on Earth, male, female, black, white, every color and creed, every nationality and language..

There is nothing else we can do to improved on His perfect work of Salvation..

He then bulit His Church, his Bride...

and has NEVER lost Her...

Can you imagine wanting to worship a Jesus who was so careless and irresponsible that He misplaced His own Bride like we might misplace our keys or glasses ???

and then while we might take several minutes to desparately find them,again...

He never bother to even look for His Bride ???

Or even report Her missing ???

There are no Christian writings that mention the Church was not in residence on Earth...

Jerome didnt have any account of the “kidnapping”

St Augustine wrote as though she was still around..

No Pope down through the ages sent out an Amber Alert...

and Luther, Calvin and the other Protestant reformers all have epistles of the ongoing work in the Church in their day..

If she was missing, dont you think at least ONE of all those 2,000 years of attentive men of God would have noticed that the Church was absent without leave ???

[Tennessee Nana]

LOL

[Elsie]

Your chosen religion is a demonically inspired thing: ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE.

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Was the Bible tampered with?
How do we know the Bible was copied accurately?

Was the Book of MORMON tampered with?
How do we know the Book of MORMON was copied accurately?

[Elsie]

As an ex-PRESBYTERIAN; one would think that YOU would know what JS learned to be UNTRUE about it.

Folks will note that you haven't a clue...

[Elsie]

 

 

 

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In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.

1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet  does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.

I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.

Ezra Taft Benson

(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)

 

[Elsie]

Find the five rabbits hidden in picture...

[Elsie]

I thank my Heavenly Father for His Restoration prophet Joseph Smith

Joseph Smith was an IDIOT that got himself KILLED!

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JESUS: Hey Smith!    Remember that boast you made about doing more than even I had done to hold the 'church' together?

JOSEPH SMITH: Where am I?

JESUS: Don't you remember? A few seconds ago you were in that jail.

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah; but where am I NOW?

JESUS: Don't you remember? Does bang - bang ring a bell?

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah - that crummy gun I had was about USELESS!

JESUS: I hope you left instructions on how to hold your church together.

JOSEPH SMITH: Dang! I knew there was SOMETHING I was forgetting!

JESUS: Looks like there's a power struggle going on down there.

JOSEPH SMITH: Yeah; there was always SOMEone who wanted the power that I held - especially over the LADIES - wink wink.

JESUS: No need to worry about that now; remember what my friend Matthew wrote down?

JOSEPH SMITH: This? “At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven” (Matthew 22:30)

JESUS: That's it.

JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.

JESUS: Nah - it was right.

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh well; it was fun while it lasted. My buds will still get it on with the girls.

JESUS: Uh; I'm sorry; in just a few more years; your followers will cavein to the United States government and abandon the 'Eternal Covenant' that you came up with.

JOSEPH SMITH: ME!? YOU are the one that told me to do that!

JESUS: Sorry; but you must have mistranslated what I told you. What part of Do NOT commit ADULTERY did you not understand?

JOSEPH SMITH: mumble....

JESUS: What did you say?

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, nothing.

JESUS: Well; it was interesting talking to you; but now I must get back to perparing a place for those who believe in Me.

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, yeah; the Celestial Kingdom.

JESUS: No...

JOSEPH SMITH: The Telestial one?

JESUS: Nope.

JOSEPH SMITH: SUREly not the TERRESTRIAL one!!

JESUS: Nope. Didn't you read that the mind of man had NOT conceived of it? Paul wrote it down in 1 Corinthians 2:9.

JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.

JESUS: No; it wasn't.

JOSEPH SMITH: You SURE?

JESUS: Yes. Now I must be going: what did you say your name was again?

JOSEPH SMITH: Joseph Smith.

JESUS: Hmmmm. According to my Heavenly Faithbook, you didn't sign in as one of my friends - sorry, I never knew you.

JOSEPH SMITH: But....

[ejonesie22]

We all know the technical difference between praise and worship Resty...

It seems that by placing Joe Smith in the path of Salvation, a man claiming to be greater than Christ himself at keeping a Church together, a man that LDS freely sings praises too that the LDS don't understand the difference...

Nor care too...

[Elsie]

 

Earlier that morning...

 

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"Joseph; I advise you not to go to that jail."

 

"Darn gnats!!"

 

 

"Joseph; I'm telling you to not to go to that jail."

 

"Flies are BAD today!!"

 

 

"Joseph; It ain't gonna be pretty if you ignore me and go to that jail!"

 

"Crummy mosquitos are EVERYWHERE!!!"

 

 

"Joseph!  Do NOT go to that jail!"

 

"And those bedbugs really savaged me last night, too!"

 

 

"JOSEPH!!  Wake up boy!   Do Not Go To That JAIL!!!"

 

"All right Sheriff - here I am, so give me a nice room while my Lawyer, my Advocate, my Comforter presents the LAW to the Judge and I am VINDICATED!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Elsie]

 

 

 

 

Praise to the Man!

 

 

Praise to the man who communed with Jehovah!
Jesus annointed that Prophet and Seer.
Blessed to open the last dispensation,
Kings shall extol him, and nations revere.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

 

 

Praise to his mem'ry, he died as a martyr;
Honored and blest be his ever great name!
Long shall his blood, which was shed by assasins,
Plead unto heav'n while the earth lauds his fame.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

 

Great is his glory and endless his priesthood.
Ever and ever the keys he will hold.
Faithful and true he will enter his kingdom,
Crowned in the midst of the prophets of old.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

 

Sacrifice brings forth the blessings of heaven;
Earth must atone for the blood of that man.
Wake up the world for the conflict of justice.
Millions shall know 'Brother Joseph' again.

 

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

[Elsie]

Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.

Give UP!
You silly ANTI's!

--MormonDude(You done LOST the FIGHT!)

[ejonesie22]

Oh my, how ironic a statement to make for one who serves a “religion” that has various levels of management, a mutli million dollar PR department and is building a mall among other things.

The logical disconnect is complete...

[Elsie]

Only the wicked see pervsion in every things LDS!

 

Galatians 1:7-10
 7.  Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
 8.  But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
 9.  As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

 

 

2 Corinthians 11:14-15
 14.  And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
 15.  It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

 

 Revelation 13:13-15
 13.  And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
 14.  And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

 

 

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/19#19
  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother, “I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”  

 

It appears that EXPERIENCES can be deceiving...

 

 

If one believes the Bible is correct, then, by that Standard, Mormonism fails the test.

 

 

If, however, you are convinced that the Bible is either in error, been corrupted or mis-interpreted, then you are free to believe whatever you wish.

 

 

 

 

 

[Elsie]

Only the wicked see pervsion in every things LDS!

Only the DECEIVED find ABOMINATION in everything CHRISTIAN!