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To: annalex; Dr. Eckleburg; xzins; Forest Keeper; kosta50; betty boop; D-fendr; TXnMA; MHGinTN
God's predestination is based on the foreknowledge of our freely willed acts.

In my view, we mortals have a persistent tendency to see things on an arrow of time, i.e. past>present>future.

That is probably because as mortals we are merely observers "in" space/time, traveling along a short worldline from our physical birth to our physical death.

That is our observer problem as mortals.

But of a truth, God has no such limitation.

And there may be more than one dimension of time. What we consider as a line could be a plane or volume.

The moment may be far more than we could guess.

To God be the glory, not man, never man.

796 posted on 07/14/2010 9:52:11 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; Dr. Eckleburg; xzins; Forest Keeper; kosta50; betty boop; D-fendr; TXnMA; MHGinTN
there may be more than one dimension of time

For God, there is no time. He sees your past, present and future all at once. Hence, predestination coexists with free will.

850 posted on 07/15/2010 5:20:17 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop
"That is probably because as mortals we are merely observers "in" space/time, traveling along a short worldline from our physical birth to our physical death.

That is our observer problem as mortals.

But of a truth, God has no such limitation.

And there may be more than one dimension of time. What we consider as a line could be a plane or volume."

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AHA! Dear Sister: you just "tickled my 'universal now' antennae..." '-)

Rest assured, I am "still working on it" -- and am trending toward volumetric time. But trying to illustrate multidimensional concepts on a two-dimensional computer screen is, to say the least, proving to be "challenging". ;-}

Hint: Despite the vanities of all our "centrisms", it is most unlikely that we are precisely "on" -- or, even, anywhere near -- the "most direct arrow of time" between creation and the present state of the Universe!

Suffice it to say that I may have to take us all the way back to the "ultra-centrism" of an infant in the womb to finally extend our vision out to how our all-dimensional Creator might perceive -- or be able to describe to us -- an event like this one: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2552720/posts via His 'universal now'!

854 posted on 07/15/2010 6:28:46 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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