Posted on 07/02/2010 6:56:08 PM PDT by Desdemona
All saved men who are on earth, right now, walking, talking, breathing, are referred to as SAINTS. Also those SAVED men who no longer walk among us..
Did you read the scriptures I gave you, or did you just post this without bothering?
“Their faith is based entirely on a book that reads like magic, and some even refer to God as their (big) “Daddy.”
A profound lack of understanding of what you accuse but nothing new there. In evidence is your comment about what Christ said of children.
Ho Hum....what cannot be understood must be ridiculed.
Indeed. As Murray Gell-Mann (PhD from MIT in theoretical physics at age 22 or so, Nobel Prize in physics in 1969) wrote:
What is especially striking and remarkable is that in fundamental physics a beautiful or elegant theory is more likely to be right than a theory that is inelegant."
Cheers!
So do Catholics, and (presumably) Eastern Orthodox, all on the authority of Christ.
What do you think the Pater Noster is, anyway?
Cheers!
Children are not particularly "pure." All men are fallen.
A child's unconditional trust is what we are to emulate. We come to Him "as children," aware of our complete dependency on Him.
That's not naive or gullible. That's knowing whom we believe, and that we are not God, but His creation.
Their faith is based entirely on a book
That book contains the truth of the prophets and the words of God. Do you criticize the Jews for that same reason?
you: Is His own death and resurrection for your sins thus minor?
Lamb of God is also His Name, timelessly.
And again, only God is on the throne,
For it pleased [the Father] that in him should all fulness dwell; And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, [I say], whether [they be] things in earth, or things in heaven. Colossians 1:15-20
To God be the glory, not man, never man.
Not heart cells, not brain cells. You can't regrow limbs, eyes, lungs, kidneys, etc. These organs are formed during cell differentiation (organogensis) by stem cells.
Some organs, such as bones, skin, hair, blood vessels, etc. can repair and even enlarge, as needed, but these are maintenance and band-aid repair corrections.
This means cataclysm for the species involved, with man it would be approaching Armageddon
I wouldn't call it that. It happens in the universe all the time, just different places and times. We could just as easily cause it ourselves with a nuclear war. Species don't matter. Life is consequential to conditions.
This world existed long before we did, and so did many species. We see species appear and disappear in front of our eyes without cataclysms,
and something else fills the void to maintain the balance. The creation is not about us, for us or by us. We only believe it is. The world would not end if humans disappeared. Just us and our man-made things. We are not as big or important as we think we are.
I'd put that in the Armageddon category. We were talking about massive over-population and the resulting "adjustment." This usually means a massive die-off.
Species don't matter.
They matter to themselves of course, and the mix and numbers of species matter to the perpetuation of life.
Life is consequential to conditions.
As far as we know from our experience: Where matter is favorable, life emerges, where life is favorable, intelligence emerges, where intelligence is favorable, consciousness emerges.
Yes in consequence to conditions, but everything interrelated to the whole, and, in our experience, that includes living things.
It's not difficult to imagine nothing at all exists, or even a soup of particles and forces becoming nothing more.
There seems to a fair bit of that going on on this thread...
God's Name is I AM.
>>>>”Not heart cells, not brain cells.”
I believe that’s no longer true:
http://www.livescience.com/health/090402-heart-cells.html
Ridicule like hot sauce, has its place but too much ruins the taste of everything else. Of course it also hides a fair bit of ignorance too.
And I feel like I'm cheating here because I am privy to the chart, so I'll say no more about it except to thank you, dear brother in Christ, for all of your insights!
Jesus thought they were fit for heaven.
A child's unconditional trust is what we are to emulate.
Where does it say that?
What you call trust is children's naïvete. They can be easily persuaded, misled, fooled. I doubt Christ thought that was their redeeming feature. The Beatitudes seem to suggest very strongly he didn't.
That's knowing whom we believe...
Children believe strangers because they are naïve and gullible. How is that knowing whom to believe?
..., and that we are not God, but His creation/i>
They don't know unless we tell them. They have to like you to believe you. And if they like a stranger (usually because a stranger has something they want) they will believe a stranger and forget what the parents said about not talking to strangers, which is exactly what Eve did.
That book contains the truth of the prophets and the words of God
If you choose to believe that.
Do you criticize the Jews for that same reason?
I don't criticize anyone for their beliefs, Dr. E. I am only reminding that statements of faith are not necessarily statements of fact.
The Jews believe that God wrote the Torah before the foundation of the world. That is the only word of God they acknowledge. The Prophets are inspired, and lower in author than the Torah (the five Books of Moses), and the Writings are even lower in authority than the Prophets. The Torah is eternal. It cannot be "fulfilled" and replaced. Only the Jews are required to keep the Law because they are the priestly nation chosen by God.
I don't believe any of that, but they do and I don't criticize it unless they insist that I believe it as a matter of fact (which they don't).
“Jesus thought they were fit for heaven.”
Where does it say that?
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