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To: roamer_1
How do you prove the "new testament" belongs in the Bible at all? In fact, how do you know to believe in the Bible at all? It has to be authorized by an authority external to itself (G-d) or else it has no more meaning than the koran or the book of mormon.

The proof is in the prophecy.

No it isn't. If it isn't authorized by the Torah, it is illegitimate.

The only reason you believe the "new testament" fulfills prophecy is because it says it does. But what if it's wrong? How do you know the "new testament" is the word of G-d at all and thus to be believed when it claims to be a fulfillment of prophecy?

I could write a religious book and have it claim to be a fulfillment of prophecy, fcol.

369 posted on 07/04/2010 4:42:35 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Neqom niqmat Beney Yisra'el me'et haMidyanim; 'achar te'asef 'el-`ammeykha.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

NOPE.

Not merely because the NT says so.

We can read unrubberized histories.

With The Old Testament.

That’s sufficient.


379 posted on 07/04/2010 5:30:54 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
No it isn't. If it isn't authorized by the Torah, it is illegitimate.

Then is it your opinion that the prophets of Israel are illegitimate?

The whole of the Hebrew Bible is not authorized by the Torah.

The only reason you believe the "new testament" fulfills prophecy is because it says it does. But what if it's wrong?

To the contrary. I spend more time in the Old Covenant than I do in the New. It is the first Covenant prophets that i refer to.

How do you know the "new testament" is the word of G-d at all and thus to be believed when it claims to be a fulfillment of prophecy?

each book, any book of any kind is not made holy by some canonization process, be it Judaic or Christian. God's "signature" is on His scribes, and on His prophets. Word is entwined with Prophecy, and each bears witness to the other.

From there, it must be built upon the foundation of the Torah, and the Prophets. New cannot disregard old, or make it null.

This method defies the Koran and the Book of Mormon, but it does not deny the New Covenant. At least, not in my opinion.

380 posted on 07/04/2010 5:49:18 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; roamer_1

Because the LORD says to test everything, we are not led by *Blind Faith* the Bible in itself is *prophetic*. Why do you think so many people today believe we are the *Last Generation* to witness prophetic events? it is because of what’s in the Holy Bible....


382 posted on 07/04/2010 5:58:35 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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