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To: SZonian

“You expose yourself quite nicely as a typical mormon who has swallowed the SLC talking points about every ex-mo having an axe to grind and ergo, should be ignored, dismissed, denigrated or shunned. “

Actually, I have been taught just the opposite.

The Church is perfect; the people are not. I have been hurt by LDS folk but that’s because we are all screwed up and fall short of the glory of God. All of us. We all need grace, love and mercy just to survive every day.

I am looking forward to the Second Coming of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who can straighten all of us out in the twinkling of an eye.


133 posted on 06/29/2010 7:41:19 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
"Actually, I have been taught just the opposite.

It's good to know then. Didn't mean to sound so...judgemental(?). ;^)

But still, the question about tithing being needed to attain exaltation.

Any thoughts on that?

I ask again because it appears that the information presented has been disregarded or overlooked.

134 posted on 06/29/2010 2:11:04 PM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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To: Saundra Duffy

“The Church is perfect; the people are not.”

OK, let’s give the imperfect mormon people a pass.

The Church, however...

In what way is it perfect?

You’ve said your “prophets” haven’t been infallible and their words are flat out wrong, according to mormons (like
the statement that people live on the sun).

Your mormonic verses have had at least 4000 changes since
Joseph Smithe “translated” them by seeing what God said and
relaying it to his secretary. They obviously weren’t
perfect - or even translated correctly.

The masonic rituals that occur in the temples are not
recorded in any of the sacred writings of mormonism.
Masons may consider them perfect, but with all the
nakedness and older people touching the private parts
of younger people, they don’t seem perfect.

That leaves the gaudy buildings. I don’t imagine you are
claiming they are perfect?

So I am left wondering, in what way is the LDS church
perfect?


138 posted on 06/29/2010 3:53:00 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Saundra Duffy; SZonian; greyfoxx39

The Church is perfect; the people are not.

- - - - - -
You know, I got sick and tired of hearing this when I was LDS.

The LDS church is FAR from perfect and the behavior of its members reflect that.

The Body of Christ is made up of REAL believers, we aren’t perfect and no ‘church’ is. Only Christ is.


151 posted on 06/29/2010 4:36:29 PM PDT by reaganaut (The LDS church doesn't PRAY FOR the weak, they PREY ON them.)
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To: Saundra Duffy
we are all screwed up and fall short of the glory of God. All of us. We all need grace, love and mercy just to survive every day.

Sandy does your bishop know you think this way?

153 posted on 06/29/2010 4:45:04 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: Saundra Duffy
I am looking forward to the Second Coming of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who can straighten all of us out in the twinkling of an eye.

Based on the whole godhood/own planets lds teachings, is that where jesus hands out the assignments?

155 posted on 06/29/2010 4:47:07 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: Saundra Duffy
The Church is perfect; the people are not

You just don't get it sandy!

THE CHURCH IS THE PEOPLE!

310 posted on 06/30/2010 8:57:50 AM PDT by T Minus Four (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior.)
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To: Saundra Duffy
we are all screwed up and fall short of the glory of God

Well just CTR. Problem solved.

311 posted on 06/30/2010 8:59:12 AM PDT by T Minus Four (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior.)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Real persecution: http://www.seattlepi.com/national/1104ap_as_nkorea_underground_missionaries.html
564 posted on 07/04/2010 11:18:24 AM PDT by svcw (True freedom cannot be granted by any man or government, only by Christ.)
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