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Ananias and Sapphira, Original Sin in the Church:-TITHING
Houston Catholic Worker, ^ | Vol. XXII, No. 7, December 2002. | by Jorge Domínguez Rojo

Posted on 06/26/2010 10:13:41 AM PDT by restornu

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To: Tennessee Nana
I mean even the “fasting” (and I use the term lightly) that lds do. Good grief its announced and planned monthly.
Didn't Jesus tell the pharisees to stop complaining (IE standing on the street corner and announcing they were fasting and complaining about their hunger).
Wasn't it oil your hair, put on clean clothes and don't talk about it (fasting) because it was between you and God, not you and man.

Really much most of what lds do is between them and man, as opposed to between them and God.

101 posted on 06/27/2010 10:33:42 AM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Do lds have to pay to go to conference? (I don't mean lodging or travel, just to get in?)
My daughter's church has yearly conferences/training and the charge is $25 for the four days. That includes snacks at two breaks each day, a CD and DVD of the conference at the end. Plus each person gets a little bag of goodies, like pen, paper, and candies - goodies.
102 posted on 06/27/2010 10:42:00 AM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: restornu
But do the anti capitalist hate big oil I say they covet big oil like they did to GM and a few others they have up their sleaves such Wall Stree and banks etc..

WOW...are you implying that we Christians "covet" mormonism's wealth?

It sure sounds that way!

That would be pretty disgusting to a Christian, since that wealth is being used to buy worldly things like land, businesses, oh and to build ugly buildings and malls when in fact it it were used to help the needy other than the mormon needy, it would be a huge blessing.

Ugh....the thought of "coveting" anything mormoism has is just incredible to a Christian.

103 posted on 06/27/2010 10:42:45 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Obama: "a guy who throws a baseball like a girl and eats cilantro" H/T Fishtalk)
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To: greyfoxx39; restornu

Wow, G I am impressed you had any idea at all what R was trying to say.
Nice going.


104 posted on 06/27/2010 10:45:23 AM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: Elsie

All of the Old Testament is Law. It is often called “The Law and the Prophets”.


105 posted on 06/27/2010 10:48:37 AM PDT by fish hawk (Hussein Obama: Golf/Gulf, not very good at either.)
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To: restornu

106 posted on 06/27/2010 10:49:21 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: svcw

Actually the mormons dont fast...

They just put off eating for a few hours like the moslems do...

Then they pig out...

Jesus fasted for 40 days and 40 nights...

How many mormons do that ???

And yes Jesus told us not to announce and boast about our fasting but to just do it in secret...


107 posted on 06/27/2010 10:49:23 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: svcw

They have to bring their own sandwiches...no free snacks etc..

I doubt if ther morg gives anything away...

they are a business...

how will they stay in business if they give charity ???

Oh there is the necessary but evil advertising dollars spent...

Like the 600 shanties they sent to Haiti...

(But Hey that was good for lots of free PR..)

But waste money on unworthy poor folk...well theres no profit in that...


108 posted on 06/27/2010 10:55:34 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

This thread is a PERFECT EXAMPLE of how mormons view the Bible! Thank you for posting this!

The Mormonic See and Say Bible Study Method

1. Open the Bible to any page - doesn’t really matter
2. Pretend there is not context to any passage you choose
3. Start with a mormonic doctrine in mind
4. Find a common word in the Bible that is common with the mormonic verses
5. Ignore the point of the passage - doesn’t matter
6. Read the mormonic teaching into the passage, claiming the use of a common word proves the mormonic doctine!

Whatyagot? Mormonism!

In this case, dear Resty, the lesson of the passage isn’t
about tithing.

BUT, the good news is that you have illustrated the flawed
mormonic method perfectly.

For this, we thank you.


109 posted on 06/27/2010 11:45:34 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

That is a great post. Thanks, AMPU


110 posted on 06/27/2010 12:17:12 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Obama: "a guy who throws a baseball like a girl and eats cilantro" H/T Fishtalk)
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To: greyfoxx39
I think EVERYONE will enjoy this clip of a guy finding a stethoscope
111 posted on 06/27/2010 12:20:14 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Obama: "a guy who throws a baseball like a girl and eats cilantro" H/T Fishtalk)
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To: svcw

No, conference is free, but it is near impossible to get tickets unless you know someone (might be easier with the new conference center). Nothing is provided at all, and since the LDS frown on spending any money on Sunday, many bring picnic lunches to eat during break.

That is if you are lucky enough to get to SLC (or live there). Conference is also broadcast via sattelite (and now carried on a lot of cable systems). So most watch it either at home or at the local stake center.

When I was LDS and lived in CA, we had to go to the stake center, get dressed up like regular church, drive 30 miles, sit for conference, head home to eat, head back for another session.

When I lived in Utah, I could roll out of bed and watch it on TV in my PJs.

“Conference” is just a bunch of repetitive speeches by their leadership (mostly men) and music by MoTab.


112 posted on 06/27/2010 12:43:52 PM PDT by reaganaut (The LDS church doesn't PRAY FOR the weak, they PREY ON them.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Thumbs up

:)


113 posted on 06/27/2010 12:46:21 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: greyfoxx39; restornu; colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; ...
Pleasee go preach to the free lunch revile

This is a perfect example of how the LDS 'play' at being Christians. They go through the motions, they say the right words, but they really, really do not get it. They are like 5 year olds playing house.

Because Christians are not under the COMPULSION to pay 10% gross income like the LDS are (if they don't they are looked down upon, not considered 'worthy' and not allowed in their temples) the LDS ASSUME that Christians believe in a 'free lunch' or don't pay tithing.

We have seen on this board the statement from the LDS and ex-LDS that tithing to the LDS is 'paying their fair share' and that attitude explains the 'free lunch' comment. They will also 'testify' (as we have seen here) that paying their compulsory tithing gives them material benefits. The LDS often connect 'living the gospel' with material wealth. The idea being that God will bless you financially if you are faithful in your full tithing, much the same as those who promote the Prosperity Gospel heresy.

Yet, once again, we see that the LDS JUST DON"T GET IT. God doesn't want or NEED our money. He wants our offerings of LOVE and devotion and tithing is one way of doing that.

Most Christians I know pay WAY more than 10% and give cheerfully, the way God wants it. They realize that IT IS ALL GOD'S MONEY, and we are blessed by having it in the first place. Christians give where we are led and as much as we are led and there is no one looking over our shoulder, asking us if we are paying it, or keeping track. Christians know our tithing is between US AND GOD, no one else.

This thread also clearly shows, as AMPU pointed out, that the LDS completely fail at basic reading comprehension. They will interpret passages as their leaders have told them to, not thinking about what the passage really says or the context. A&S were killed not because they didn't 'pay their fair share' but BECAUSE THEY LIED ABOUT THEIR OFFERING. It is a story about greed and deception, not tithing. But the LDS will insist that it is because that is what their leaders have brainwashed them to think.

114 posted on 06/27/2010 1:07:32 PM PDT by reaganaut (The LDS church doesn't PRAY FOR the weak, they PREY ON them.)
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To: reaganaut
Great post Reaganaut..

It is a story about greed and deception, not tithing.

115 posted on 06/27/2010 1:40:43 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: greyfoxx39
Coming soon to a mall near you....

With these as temple recommends


116 posted on 06/27/2010 2:04:05 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Tennessee Nana

;)


117 posted on 06/27/2010 2:09:58 PM PDT by reaganaut (The LDS church doesn't PRAY FOR the weak, they PREY ON them.)
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To: reaganaut
Mormons/LDS.... will interpret passages as their leaders have told them to, not thinking about what the passage really says or the context.

This is the very heart of the matter reaganaut, if one no longer has the ability for 'independent thought' you will see that evidenced by the very thing seen on this thread and others. Indoctrinate, load them with literature and material reading, ritualistic performances to give them a feel good affect, wear them out with required functions and labor under the disguise of "living the Gospel"....and in the midst of tear down their very soul with guilt and fear, and make them pay as they go.... There you have the dynamics of a cult in every sense of the word. And least we forget....keep them distracted from Gods word by offering another "Prophet" and his book. They all have their leader and their book.

118 posted on 06/27/2010 3:47:00 PM PDT by caww
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To: restornu

Chim chang flippery floppery


119 posted on 06/27/2010 4:12:04 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fish hawk
All of the Old Testament is Law.

And to WHOM was that LAW given?

120 posted on 06/27/2010 4:14:13 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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