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To: GiovannaNicoletta
9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

This is speaking of Jesus not the anti-christ. Jesus confirmed the covenant with the Jews for 3.5 years and was cut off in the middle of it.The overspreading of the abomination was the continuation of the daily sacrifice by the Jews. God gave them 40 years to repent and in ad 70 God destroyed the Temple and the daily sacrifices. You will not find any where in the bible that says that there will be 7 years of tribulation. Revelation speaks of a 3.5 year period. the tribulation is only 3.5 years.

63 posted on 06/22/2010 3:57:58 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to GOD! Thomas Jefferson)
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To: guitarplayer1953
I will need the Scripture that describes the following about Jesus Christ:

Those are all characteristics of the guy who signs a seven-year peace contract with Israel.

So if Jesus Christ is that guy, I'm going to need to see supporting Scripture that will prove without a doubt that Jesus Christ already signed a seven-year peace contact with Israel.

64 posted on 06/22/2010 4:16:07 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: guitarplayer1953; GiovannaNicoletta
gp1953 you made a slight error in the starting point of your math.

24"Seventy weeks have been decreed for your people and your holy city, to finish the transgression, to make an end of sin, to make atonement for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy place.
25"So you are to know and discern that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince there will be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; it will be built again, with plaza and moat, even in times of distress.
26"Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary And its end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war; desolations are determined.

Verse 24 tells us 70 weeks, correct?

Verse 25 then tells us there will be 7 weeks AND 62 weeks, correct?

Verse 26 tells us "Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing,",

It does not say after 62-1/2 weeks the Messiah will be cut off, and it does not say that the Messiah will begin his ministry after 62 weeks.

Then it tells us after Messiah is cut off, that the city and sanctuary will be destroyed.

NOW...We can look at verse 27:

"And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate."

The first 7 weeks have gone by, the next 62 weeks have gone by and Messiah is cut off, and the city and sanctuary are destroyed...NOW...HE will make a covenant for 1 week (7 years), but in the middle will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering.

Who is this HE? Messiah has already been cut off after week 62 (69), and now week 70 starts with a covenant which is broken by the the one who made it 1/2 way through.

76 posted on 06/22/2010 9:59:43 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: guitarplayer1953

So the Church didn’t exist until after 70AD?

The Temple is determined by God, by His Sovereignty, not by man.


92 posted on 07/16/2010 8:10:33 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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