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Execution By Firing Squad Will Be First In 14 Years [Mormon - Open]
NPR ^ | June 17, 2010 | Jenny Brundin

Posted on 06/17/2010 6:28:06 PM PDT by Colofornian

Utah death-row inmate Ronnie Lee Gardner is set to be executed by a firing squad on Friday. Thirty-five states allow the death penalty, but death by firing squad remains an option only in Utah.

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Every detail of April 2, 1985, is burned into her memory. Gardner was in court on a murder charge when he tried to escape. An accomplice slipped him a gun, and he shot and killed an attorney and also severely wounded George "Nick" Kirk, who was a bailiff. Kirk didn't die, but VelDean Kirk says he wasn't the same active, cheerful man anymore. She says his final years were marked by excruciating pain and depression from a sedentary life.

His daughter, Tami Stewart, feels sorry for Gardner, but she can't forgive him. She imagines him in the death chamber. "He's going to feel that fear that he put into every one of those men. He's done. We've given him more than enough," Stewart says.

Gardner did get one choice: how he would die. In court, after being told he'd exhausted his appeals, the 49-year-old made his preference known.

"I would like the firing squad, please," he told the court...

...Utah's last firing-squad execution 14 years ago attracted more than 150 news crews from across the globe. They were interested in one thing: the method of execution.

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Utah historian Will Bagley says the reason this method of execution exists is rooted in Utah's history as a Mormon sanctuary. "I think we need to be honest about it. We have the last firing squads in the country as a legacy of Mormon theology," Bagley says.

Some early Mormon leaders believed in blood atonement for the most egregious sins. "To atone for those, Jesus' blood didn't count. You had to shed your own blood," Bagley says.

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TOPICS: Current Events; History; Other Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: beck; bloodatonement; brokenrecord; gardner; glennbeck; hischoice; lds; mormon
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To: restornu
R, I am pretty sure that this a standing rule,
Most people do post a source so its not an issue.
If you have an opinion of course can't be sourced unless you are writing your own material.
whaaa, just one more day of three little ones by myself.
Youngsters are for the young!
Then back to normal, whatever that is. ,-)
221 posted on 06/18/2010 11:15:12 AM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: BlueMoose
Seriously? It is lds who are money changers.
When you say Christians are parroting money changers and they are quoting lds sources are you not slandering lds?
222 posted on 06/18/2010 11:19:08 AM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: restornu; reaganaut

So you think those who deny the Holy Ghost once they have receive a witness should be patted on the head....("so you think").

In order to understand what Brigham Young, Heber C. Kimball, Charles W. Penrose and others have said, we must mention that there are some sins for which the blood of Christ alone does not cleanse a person....(source?)

These include blasphemy against the Holy Ghost (as defined by the Church)...(source? Where is this "definition"?...what "church"?)

and that murder which is the unlawful killing of a human being with malice.

However, and this cannot be stressed too strongly, this law has not been given to the Church at any time in this dispensation......(I REALLY want to see the source for THIS!)

It has no application whatever to anyone now living whether he is a member or a non-member of the Church....(Source? Application of what?)


223 posted on 06/18/2010 11:25:27 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (“Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.” M)
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To: restornu; reaganaut; Elsie; CommerceComet; colorcountry; svcw
I don’t how many post in the pass ten years I have corrected these sound bites yet the same characters would slip in these canards over and over trying to make them true to justify their pain for not being able to walk the walk and recent those of us who at least try to practice the things the Lord shows us.

Where do you get the authority to judge "not being able to walk the walk and recent those of us who at least try to practice the things the Lord shows us"??

There is no Church that can come close to keeping order like the Lord’s Church.

NOT

224 posted on 06/18/2010 11:33:49 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (“Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.” M)
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To: MindBender26; Colofornian
Everyone is on to his game.

I'm anxiously awaiting an article explaining how its Brigham Young's fault that the Utah Utes accepted an invitation to the Pac 10. lol.

225 posted on 06/18/2010 11:56:46 AM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
I'm anxiously awaiting an article explaining how its Brigham Young's fault that the Utah Utes accepted an invitation to the Pac 10. lol.

(I actually do like your sense of humor, II...well... at least part of the time. This one brought a smile to my face :) )

226 posted on 06/18/2010 12:06:54 PM PDT by Colofornian (The Lds Lament: If only the 'Restoration' had occurred in a 'Once upon a time' era...)
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To: greyfoxx39; BlueMoose
Me: So I'm going to ask you a direct Q, BM: When did whatever "Mormon 'dispensation'" period you're referencing begin, and when will it end?

As expected...mormon crickets... [GF]

How about it BM...care to spare one of your multi-tasking entities to respond to this direct Q?

227 posted on 06/18/2010 12:10:59 PM PDT by Colofornian (The Lds Lament: If only the 'Restoration' had occurred in a 'Once upon a time' era...)
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To: MindBender26; Colofornian; CommerceComet; Elsie; ejonesie22; reaganaut; svcw
End of discussion, You are internally Zotted.

Aw shucks...and you were in contention for "Player of the Week" too.

228 posted on 06/18/2010 12:19:39 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (“Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.” M)
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To: Colofornian

Well. When you swing for the fences its gotta
go over the wall occasionally. :-)


229 posted on 06/18/2010 12:22:51 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: MindBender26; greyfoxx39
And just a reminder, I am not a Mormon. I am an ordained elder in the Presbyterian Church, and watched a Mormon friend die in Vietnam. He died for the USA, and you for you *****s, not for the Mormon church. [GF]

Now would this be the same Presbyterian church that's part of the PC - USA Church denomination HQ'd in Kentucky? {In huge distinction from the conservative PCA denomination?)

230 posted on 06/18/2010 12:24:43 PM PDT by Colofornian (The Lds Lament: If only the 'Restoration' had occurred in a 'Once upon a time' era...)
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To: greyfoxx39
I was internally zotted several times. Doctor put me on Zantac...
231 posted on 06/18/2010 12:27:20 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Well. When you swing for the fences its gotta go over the wall occasionally. :-)

(Hey, how bout them Rockies? You and I might disagree on the Buffs, who I haven't liked ever since McCartney left-- just like we disagree on other things, but we have common ground on some things...including PK)

232 posted on 06/18/2010 12:29:46 PM PDT by Colofornian (The Lds Lament: If only the 'Restoration' had occurred in a 'Once upon a time' era...)
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To: restornu
"So far you did NOT endure to the end, you broke your covenant with the LORD, not with the Church, or members but with the Lord and now you murmur day in and day out! Many of you ex’ers post daily and complain about things because to many of you it is too hard to hear and do! It is so obvious that Exers and the way they behave have listen to the father of lies who planted the seeds of doubt and fear"...

"covenants" made in a cult are not binding on either the Lord, OR on the human, and all the nasty accusations against "ex'ers" do nothing but show what a cult mormonism is...attacking folks for leaving is a sure sign of cultism.

The Immediate Benefits of Leaving Mormonism (Applies to all cults! ) a>

These are the positive feelings and experiences that we have had and continue to expand even within the first few months of leaving Mormonism.

TRY IT! YOU'LL LEARN TO LOVE IT! TURN TO JESUS INSTEAD!
233 posted on 06/18/2010 12:30:08 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (“Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.” M)
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To: Colofornian
Hey, how bout them Rockies?

We're ok when Ubaldo is pitching. I'm ready for Helton to give it up tho. There's a first baseman in the Springs who's already hit 14 homers this year. They should give him a shot.

234 posted on 06/18/2010 12:33:42 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: MindBender26

Have you ever considered becoming LDS? You might fit right in.

You apparently fail to realize the connection between Mormon history which is replete with cases of blood atonement and calls thereof and the current choice of method of execution.

That isn’t bigotry, that is fact.

Jesus wouldn’t be happy with what the LDS does in His name and the blasphemy they proclaim.

But, go ahead, thow your temper tantrum and ‘internally zot’ me. I don’t need to deal with any more small minded people who only care about themselves.


235 posted on 06/18/2010 12:33:48 PM PDT by reaganaut (The LDS church doesn't PRAY FOR the weak, they PREY ON them.)
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To: Colofornian

What’s PK?


236 posted on 06/18/2010 12:34:54 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Religion Moderator

Ok.


237 posted on 06/18/2010 12:34:59 PM PDT by reaganaut (The LDS church doesn't PRAY FOR the weak, they PREY ON them.)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

PK = Promise Keepers


238 posted on 06/18/2010 12:38:11 PM PDT by Colofornian (The Lds Lament: If only the 'Restoration' had occurred in a 'Once upon a time' era...)
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To: CommerceComet
"Oprah" Christianity is infiltrating all manners of Christiandenomonations.

There was a time American Christians knew that there was a time for handholding and singing kymbaya and a time to take up the mantle of the Christian Solider and defend the faith.

Sadly the latter is becoming a lost art at the very time in our history it is needed most, when Christianity and all that is right and good and moral is under the most egregious of attacks from with in and with out.

It is not a coincidence that two of the most vapid of the Evil one's “religions”, socialism and Islam are descending upon us even as we speak.

And blowing it off as just simply a secular conflict as we also see put forth in these pages is the height of ignorance.

239 posted on 06/18/2010 12:42:14 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: Elsie

Paypal, money order, check...?


240 posted on 06/18/2010 12:42:45 PM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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