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To: BenKenobi; TSgt

Yes and Daniel was also told he was highly favored and loved when he was given prophetic messages concerning the end times; it doesn’t mean he was going to be co-emperor with God. Neither can you justify the creating of a whole Mary co-redeemer mythos out of what the angel said to Mary, from this scriptural context. The angel certainly didn’t bow to Mary the way Catholics do!(though given enough time, the Vatican might certainly traditionalize again and declare that 10,000 angels swirled around Mary, bowing and singing in loving adoration, perhaps Gabriel will have organized a “kickline”!)

Hail simply meant “Greetings!” in this context!


155 posted on 06/15/2010 1:37:57 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Mike Mathis is my name,opinions are my own,subject to flaming when deserved!)
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To: mdmathis6
Neither can you justify the creating of a whole Mary co-redeemer mythos out of what the angel said to Mary, from this scriptural context.

This comment betrays your fundimental failure to grasp Catholic theology. This Scripture is cited as an anecdote, not a justification. Holy Tradition is our justification, not Scripture: just like trinitarian theology.

The existence of the Jehovah's Witnesses is irrefutable evidence trinitarian theology can be easily ignored when its only foundation is Scripture.

So far as Catholics are concerned, there isn't a dime's difference in your philosophical approach, and theirs.

157 posted on 06/15/2010 1:53:54 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: mdmathis6

And it means something different in the hail mary?


162 posted on 06/15/2010 2:31:19 PM PDT by BenKenobi (I want to hear more about Sam! Samwise the stouthearted!)
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To: mdmathis6

Well, Elizabeth certainly got it right. “How is it that the mother of my Lord comes to me?” A central doctrine of Christianity is that the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us, and Mary was a central player in that divine drama.


168 posted on 06/15/2010 2:47:00 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: mdmathis6
Hail simply meant “Greetings!” in this context!

They keep pretending that the English 'Hail' is the German 'Heil'...

200 posted on 06/15/2010 4:43:42 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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