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To: blue-duncan; small voice in the wilderness
This is the message that Paul preached in the synagogues, including Berea. He preached that Jesus was the Messiah (Christ)and they would have searched the Isaiah and Zechariah prophecies to see if it was as Paul interpreted the scriptures concerning a “suffering Messiah”.

Maybe some have believed Paul's hyperbolic interpretation of Isaiah, but Judaism soundly rejected and rejects that the "Suffering Servant" is a man, much less a man called Jesus, let alone God, precisely based on the OT scripture, just as it rejected the Christian interpretation of Ps 110:1 a fabricated corruption.

The problem, of course, is that we have no one else to tesitify of what transpried from the opposing camp, and that most Christians simply take Paul on his word as a matter of "fact."

132 posted on 06/15/2010 11:39:03 AM PDT by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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To: kosta50
The problem, of course, is that we have no one else to testify of what transpried from the opposing camp, and that most Christians simply take Paul on his word as a matter of "fact."

Are you so blind that you cannot see or understand the clear words of the Holy Bible? Are you saying that Paul lied? Your blatant refusal to read and understand what was CLEARLY stated leaves you without excuse. Willful ignorance is not an *asterisk* beside "It is WRITTEN".

134 posted on 06/15/2010 11:51:58 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the indefensible: A pawn's proudest moment)
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To: kosta50; small voice in the wilderness

“Maybe some have believed Paul’s hyperbolic interpretation of Isaiah, but Judaism soundly rejected and rejects that the “Suffering Servant” is a man, much less a man called Jesus, let alone God, precisely based on the OT scripture, just as it rejected the Christian interpretation of Ps 110:1 a fabricated corruption.”

Scripture is clear that some did believe and some did not:

Act 17:11-14, “The people of Berea were more open-minded than the people of Thessalonica. They were very willing to receive God’s message, and every day they carefully examined the Scriptures to see if what Paul said was true. Many of them became believers, and quite a number of them were prominent Greek men and women. But when the Jews in Thessalonica found out that Paul was also spreading God’s word in Berea, they went there to upset and confuse the people. The believers immediately sent Paul to the seacoast, but Silas and Timothy stayed in Berea.”

Isaiah had already prophesied that some would not believe:

Isa 53:1-2, “Who hath believed our report? And to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed? For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form or comeliness; and when we shall see him, [there is] no beauty that we should desire him.

Jesus picked up the Isaiah prophecy and applied it to Himself:

Jhn 12:37-41, “But though he had done so many miracles before them, yet they believed not on him: That the saying of Esaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our report? And to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed? Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again, He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with [their] eyes, nor understand with [their] heart, and be converted, and I should heal them. These things said Esaias, when he saw his glory, and spake of him.”

Paul applied the Isaiah prophecy to Israel’s disbelief and gave the reason:

Rom 10:13-16, “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? As it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?”

Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.


137 posted on 06/15/2010 12:09:46 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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