[small voice in the wilderness]

The problem, of course, is that we have no one else to testify of what transpried from the opposing camp, and that most Christians simply take Paul on his word as a matter of "fact."

Are you so blind that you cannot see or understand the clear words of the Holy Bible? Are you saying that Paul lied? Your blatant refusal to read and understand what was CLEARLY stated leaves you without excuse. Willful ignorance is not an *asterisk* beside "It is WRITTEN".

[kosta50]

Are you so blind that you cannot see or understand the clear words of the Holy Bible?

Is that an argument of fact or your opinion? Do you understand the difference? Do you also understand that there are people who hold academic degrees in Bible study who do not agree with you? Are you the litmus test of what is true? If you are going to argue a point, then argue it with facts, not with axiomatic preusmptions.