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To: boatbums; annalex

“Using your logic then, since Jewish/Hebrew law included the Ten Commandments, we can worship false gods, use the name of God in vain, dishonor our parents, steal, murder, commit adultery, etc., but as long as we do “works of love” we can be saved???”

There is no logic in this post. It is a perfect example of reductio absurdum fallacious reasoning.


884 posted on 06/21/2010 9:06:00 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (A loud band of PaulBots, Isolationists, Protectionists, 911Inside Jobnuts, 3rdParty Loud Irrelevants)
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To: rbmillerjr; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...
a
perfect
example
of
reductio absurdum
fallacious reasoning.

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AHHHHHHH,
JUST LIKE
ALL
THE FOUNDATIONS
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THE
BLASPHEMOUS
IDOLATROUS
FALLACIOUS
HERETICAL
UNBIBLICAL
DEMONIC
MARIAN DOGMA
OF THE VATICAN EDIFICE
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I do have to admit that y'all are much longer standing experts about fallacious, idiotic, UNBiblical, demonized dogma and arguments.

890 posted on 06/21/2010 10:00:41 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: rbmillerjr; annalex; Iscool; RnMomof7; Quix
There is no logic in this post. It is a perfect example of reductio absurdum fallacious reasoning.

Perhaps you should go back and read the post, in context. My post was concerning the absurdity in thinking "good works of love" did NOT include the commandments of God since they were part of the Hebrew Law.

I don't think you can name one "Protestant" denomination that teaches a Christian just has to believe in Christ as savior and then can go live as he pleases with no obligation to live in obedience to God. There is a great difference in teaching salvation by grace through faith without works and teaching salvation by grace through faith and works.

You must ask yourself the question, "What is "believing" in Christ? What does "trusting" in Christ mean?". I know that the early Christians understood that their good deeds added nothing to the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross for our sins. He paid the penalty for sin, he made propitiation, he redeemed us, he said, "It is finished.". My contention, and I think the others on this thread, as well, is that if we are relying on our own works to save us in any way, then we are not really putting our trust in Christ. Saving faith is that total surrender to God's grace. The realization that nothing I do can earn or merit my salvation. It is ALL of Christ, not me. He deserves all the glory and when compared to his sacrifice for me, my efforts are filthy rags. That is the point - in what do you place your trust? Christ's blood or your own merits through "good works"? To rely on our own efforts to play a part in our salvation is not really trusting in Christ.

I think we may talk past each other some time and I am saddened that hearts and minds close up. The devil is delighted when we become proud and put each other down. Non-believers look and see no love or care and get turned off to learning about Christianity. Let's not give him the satisfaction.

909 posted on 06/21/2010 12:13:31 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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