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To: annalex
1. We are judged by ou.. works.

The judgment of works is a judgment of rewards..

If you could work your way into heaven then Christ died in vain .

If one is trying to work their way into heaven than their "works " are not done for the glory of God..but for the salvation of themselves... God will not be mocked....

Romans 4: 4Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. 5But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness
. 6Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, 7Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
8Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

Catholic theology makes God mans debtor.. HE OWES YOU SALVATION ..LOOK AT ALL YOU HAVE DONE

To this Christ says "And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

2. Our salvation is not secure till we die and are judged on the entirety of our works (for example, a “goat” might repent, as you yourself note, or a “sheep” may fall into sin.

The goats were always goats.. the sheep were always sheep ..The work the goats did were filthy bloody menstruation clothes to a Holy God.. Because they were not work ordained by Him.. they were works of the natural man seeking his own ends..and not the glory of God .. The Sheep did the good works BECAUSE they were His sheep..they did not do them to BECOME sheep.. They did the works ordained by God for them ...not self works seeking God but works to glorify Him ...Look at what they say to Christ..

Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord,when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 4

They were not seeking Christ or His approval or His reward for their work.. They were just being sheep

The sheep will always sin.. But praise God they have an advocate with the Father that showers them with His grace and has already washed them clean as snow,

The goats on the other hand try to wash themselves clean but can never do it..

829 posted on 06/20/2010 5:08:04 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

EXCELLENT.

WELL & BIBLICALLY DONE. THX.


836 posted on 06/20/2010 6:09:39 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: RnMomof7
The judgment of works is a judgment of rewards..

No, according to Mt. 25 it is not. It is given both sheep and goats symmetrically basedon their works.

If one is trying to work their way into heaven than their "works " are not done for the glory of God..but for the salvation of themselves

.. which is not a bad motivation at all. It is not perfect, but it still leads to individual salvation.

the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works

Yes, blessed is he. But it doesn't say that good works are not required for salvation generally. Obviou they are nto required, for example, for babies who die, or to people God chose to forgive seing their repentance, like King David.

Catholic theology makes God mans debtor

God gave us His son. He did not have to. Our works obligate God only in the sense that God already told us how He will judge us. Had he not told us, we would not be expecting salvation; since He has, we do.

The goats were always goats.. the sheep were always sheep

No; the passage in Matthew 25 does not say that and there are many examples of goats converting and sheep losign salvation in the gospel. At any rate, your remark does not alter that fact that the judgment is by the works according to Mt. 25.

They were not seeking Christ or His approval or His reward for their work.. They were just being sheep

They were just doing good works in His grace, not even knowing it. That part proves that works are salvific even in the absence of conscious faith.

864 posted on 06/21/2010 5:58:57 AM PDT by annalex
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To: RnMomof7

Amen for that post and Praise God, for being God...


869 posted on 06/21/2010 6:24:44 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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