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To: Dutchboy88; Natural Law; Dr. Eckleburg; Iscool; Quix; RnMomof7

Eph. 2:8ff teaches salvation by grace alone, but not by faith alone, since it lists good works alongside the faith. “Grace Alone” is the correct Catholic doctrine.

The two solas are counterscriptural error, no matter how long you take to explain them. That is not “obsession” to point out gross error, especially on the thread where demands to point out the priesthood in the scripture were made and answered.


219 posted on 06/16/2010 5:06:21 PM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex

Nonsense, yet again.


222 posted on 06/16/2010 5:09:27 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: annalex; Dr. Eckleburg; RnMomof7; small voice in the wilderness; Quix; boatbums
"Eph. 2:8ff teaches salvation by grace alone, but not by faith alone, since it lists good works alongside the faith. “Grace Alone” is the correct Catholic doctrine.

The two solas are counterscriptural error, no matter how long you take to explain them. That is not “obsession” to point out gross error, especially on the thread where demands to point out the priesthood in the scripture were made and answered.'

Had to reprint this just so the audience can enjoy the number of errors that can be crammed in so little space.

Paul, the writer of Eph. 2:8ff, does not include any works as a part of salvation, but it is astonishing that someone with a straight face can claim to rewrite his theology. You do have a straight face don't you? Paul specifically excludes any works so that no one from the Catholic Church cas boast, as they are doing. Okay, I added that simply because it was true, not because Paul said it. He did specifically exclude works of any sort. The good works he refers to FOLLOWING salvation is those that Father has prepared us to walk in. Notice...after.

The Catholic doctrine is incorrect. But, here again it would require reading the Scriptura and recognizing that the reason it needs to be Sola is because this kind of screwed up addition/mutilation/mangilation (is that a word?) of the perfectly understandable text. Understandable by anyone who has had the scales removed and that likely explains a lot.

The two solas are not counterscriptural (I KNOW you made that word up). And we don't need to take long to explain them because those who are being rescued understand them perfectly.

230 posted on 06/16/2010 5:39:34 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: annalex; Dutchboy88; Natural Law; Dr. Eckleburg; Iscool; Quix
Eph. 2:8ff teaches salvation by grace alone, but not by faith alone, since it lists good works alongside the faith. “Grace Alone” is the correct Catholic doctrine.
The two solas are counterscriptural error, no matter how long you take to explain them. That is not “obsession” to point out gross error, especially on the thread where demands to point out the priesthood in the scripture were made and answered.

Eph 2:8 — For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:...

Faith is the vehicle that grace comes in on ..and that faith not self generated..but a gift of God..So God provides the means of grace and the grace... all for the Glory of God ..Soli Deo Gloria !!!!
Soli Deo Gloria !!! - The Glory of God Alone

Unwarranted confidence in human ability is a product of fallen human nature ... God's grace in Christ is not merely necessary but is the sole efficient cause of salvation. We confess that human beings are born spiritually dead and are incapable even of cooperating with regenerating grace. We reaffirm that in salvation we are rescued from God's wrath by his grace alone. It is the supernatural work of the Holy Spirit that brings us to Christ by releasing us from our bondage to sin and raising us from spiritual death to spiritual life. We deny that salvation is in any sense a human work. Human methods, techniques or strategies by themselves cannot accomplish this transformation. Faith is not produced by our unregenerated human nature.

260 posted on 06/16/2010 7:41:58 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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