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To: MarkBsnr
Each member of the Trinity is God. The Father is God (John 6:27; Romans 1:7; 1 Peter 1:2). The Son is God (John 1:1, 14; Romans 9:5; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8; 1 John 5:20). The Holy Spirit is God (Acts 5:3-4; 1 Corinthians 3:16).

Sounds like the trinity to me..

Peter called Pauls writings scripture.. but it seems that catholics think the pope has inspired writings..but not the scriptures.. as I said before, those people that have a hard time with PAUL want to build their own god, cause they do not like the one that scripture reveals..

1,524 posted on 06/23/2010 5:20:16 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Each member of the Trinity is God.

Co eternal, co equal God. Yes. As agreed upon at Nicea.

God the Father is God; on that Paul and all Christians (except for some Pentecostals) agree.

Romans 9: 5 theirs the patriarchs, and from them, according to the flesh, is the Messiah. God who is over all 3 be blessed forever. Amen.

Read the punctuation. This does not say that the Messiah is God. It says (from verse 4) that the Messiah is from the Jews. And it also says that God who is over all be blessed forever, presumably for sending the Messiah to to the Jews. Not proof.

Colossians 2: 9 Because of this, God greatly exalted him and bestowed on him the name 7 that is above every name,

This is a completely subordinationist verse and STILL does not say that Jesus is God. It only says that Jesus has a name exalted and above every name (presumably every human name).

Hebrews 1: 8 but of the Son: "Your throne, O God, 4 stands forever and ever; and a righteous scepter is the scepter of your kingdom.

We don't even know that Paul wrote Hebrews, but still, looking at the verses, we can apply the notes in the NAB: 4 [8-12] O God: the application of the name "God" to the Son derives from the preexistence mentioned in Hebrews 1:2-3; the psalmist had already used it of the Hebrew king in the court style of the original. See the note on Psalm 45:6.

Are these the only proofs? Let us continue:

1 Corinthians 3: 16 Do you not know that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?

This does not address any Trinitarian formula.

Peter called Pauls writings scripture.. but it seems that catholics think the pope has inspired writings..but not the scriptures.. as I said before, those people that have a hard time with PAUL want to build their own god, cause they do not like the one that scripture reveals..

I will remind you that many people here regard Paul as a GOD and Jesus is merely a figurehead and a name to appeal to. We need to concentrate on Jesus' words first and foremost. Else, why would you wish to to be known as Christian?

1,562 posted on 06/23/2010 6:38:14 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: RnMomof7
None of the Paulian verses you list express the Nicene formula. There is separate mention of the Father, the Son (in subordination to the Father) and the Holy Spirit who appears as simply a messenger or robot of the Father. An example is 1 Corinthians 3: 16 Do you not know that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?

The way this is written is that the Spirit of God is a mechanism or emissary of God, and not God Himself.

Peter called Pauls writings scripture

The Church calls Paul's writings Scripture. And therefore it is. The Chronicler's writings are also Scripture. Do you think that 1 Chronicles 25 is any less important than Romans 6?

as I said before, those people that have a hard time with PAUL want to build their own god

Negative. It is the Paulians who wish to build their own Paulian god. Scripture is clear; Paulianity is not Christianity.

1,638 posted on 06/24/2010 3:43:51 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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