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To: annalex
Whe I am perhaps too hostile to the Protestnt pastors, calling them liars, that is the reason. Protestantism is not just one possible interpretation among several, it is a system of deception designed by power mongers for self-aggrandizement. Innocent people are caught in it. Those pastors went to seminaries; they know the falsehood of their preaching, and if they don't, they havent read the Bible with an honest eye in their life.

The Reformation was the result of the same temptations that satan gave to Jesus in Matthew 4:. The difference is that Jesus did not succumb.

1,108 posted on 06/22/2010 3:24:16 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
The Reformation was the result of the same temptations that satan gave to Jesus in Matthew 4:. The difference is that Jesus did not succumb.

Spot on,dear brother!

1,111 posted on 06/22/2010 3:29:01 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: MarkBsnr; annalex; RnMomof7; metmom; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; small voice in the wilderness
Annalex: Wh[il]e I am perhaps too hostile to the Protestnt pastors, calling them liars, that is the reason. Protestantism is not just one possible interpretation among several, it is a system of deception designed by power mongers for self-aggrandizement. Innocent people are caught in it. Those pastors went to seminaries; they know the falsehood of their preaching, and if they don't, they havent read the Bible with an honest eye in their life.

Markbsnr: The Reformation was the result of the same temptations that satan gave to Jesus in Matthew 4:. The difference is that Jesus did not succumb.

And yet you could substitute the word "priests" for "pastors" and "Roman Catholic" for "Protestant" and the statement would be entirely applicable and true. Self-aggrandizement, wealth, power, authority, submission of the "laity" were all sins the "Church" was steeped in and which brought about a need for reform. It didn't start with Martin Luther but he, as a Catholic priest himself, recognized the depravity and wantonness of the hierarchy. The "protest" was against this surrender to Satan by those who should have known better.

Do pastors still sin? Yes. Do priests, bishops, popes? Again, yes. We are all sinners and it is only through the grace of God that any can come to him - on his terms, not ours. Until we recognize that we are redeemed through Christ and not some religion or organization, we will never let go of hostility, suspicion and negativity and we will never be able to let the light of the glorious gospel shine through us.

1,125 posted on 06/22/2010 3:56:14 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg
The Reformation was the result of the same temptations that satan gave to Jesus in Matthew 4:. The difference is that Jesus did not succumb.

Mark, the sons of the reformation do not live in marble palaces, wear silk vestments, have golden crowns or staffs or rings worthy to be kissed , they do not have fine art work, antiques or an army to defend them ...That is what Satan offered to Jesus...the world.. and its comforts and riches.. position and power..all the reformers had was the army of satan chasing them to cut off their heads or burn them at the stake for proclaiming the truth of God..

1,149 posted on 06/22/2010 4:57:13 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: MarkBsnr

But Satan did not give up, did he?

The so-called reformation wa a sever test of the Church. In the end, we won.


1,385 posted on 06/23/2010 5:47:15 AM PDT by annalex
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