Posted on 06/13/2010 12:16:24 PM PDT by markomalley
NOPE.
“WE’ve” seen NO SUCH THING FROM A SINGLE VERSE, MUCH LESS A GROUP OF VERSES.
BTW, the notion that we can have no sense of security in our Salvation delivered by the Blood of Jesus smacks me as a huge insult to Christ’s Blood and to our Salvation through that Blood.
However, I’ll leave it to the Calvinists to talk about the SECURITY of our Salvation in Christ.
ABSOLUTELY INDEED.
THX.
Since the Cross accounts for nothing in such a theology, it isn’t surprising that one has to hope to remain in fellowship for a further judgment in order to receive salvation, but Christ has indeed provided a much more robust of a redemption, finished forevermore, not requiring any further work for it to qualify for the full redemption of all sin in all mankind.
It is simply for man to turn to God, through faith in Him for forgiveness of sins, then God is free to provide salvation to the believer by His grace. Do you find God to be further encumbered? Unable to provide grace in eternal live to the believer until after even more faith and good works are performed to make Him a debtor?
John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
1 John 5:10-13
Anyone who believes in the Son of God has this testimony in his heart. Anyone who does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because he has not believed the testimony God has given about his Son.
And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.
I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.
Using your logic then, since Jewish/Hebrew law included the Ten Commandments, we can worship false gods, use the name of God in vain, dishonor our parents, steal, murder, commit adultery, etc., but as long as we do "works of love" we can be saved???
The the counterscriptural heresy is with that kind of thinking, my FRiend.
Catholics believe in the inerrancy of the Bible.
“Course you do...You just don’t have a clue as to what it says”
Sure, we can read and other marvelous things. “You” have statistical deficiencies in said area.
“Sure, and the Holy Spirit retired and is living in a condo if Florida...LOL”
The legions of luther and the cavalry of calvin march on down heresy lane...
...in a pathetic, ignorant, illiterate and most brazenly fantastical frenzy of
unBiblical and non Scriptural laziness.
or
just simple-minded clarity of a dog who doesn’t know any better...
focusing on one verse at a time and ignoring the other verses....so sad.
Pardon me, I just had to burn bandwidth with drivel one time to gain empathy for the poor lost soul who burns it up so hopelessly...
and so boringly often
lol
tsk tsk
guffawwwww
hilarious
Don't expect the truth, respect or even Christian behavior from the anti-Catholics on FR. Protestantism has collectively decided than only the elect can determine the meaning of scripture and determine what constitutes the revealed word of God and what doesn't. Even though there are over 33,000 versions of the correct meaning, one for each denomination based upon the agenda of its alter-pontiff founder's aspirations, they deny that Catholics have that ability.
That is because Protestantism's founding identity is based upon its opposition to the object of its protest; Catholicism. Admitting any theological validity to Catholics and Catholicism is an admission of their error.
“to please Him to reinforce our salvation as a used kotex and good only for the trash.”
Awww lol. Let the pup tent revival begin sister. Buy the sweet elixir of slicksters and “reach behind your tv set” revival....be your deep spiritual guide.
Funny and sad.
Common cherry picking.
Common cherry picking.
Of the Scriptures mentioned in annalex post, Id like to underscore two from the Sermon on the Mount. The first is that the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees is inadequate:
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more [than others]? do not even the publicans so?
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. - Matthew 5:43-48
This seems like an impossibility because the natural man is incapable of saying perfect words, thinking perfect thoughts and doing perfect things.
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: - Romans 3:10
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one [point], he is guilty of all. James 2:10
Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. I am the vine, ye [are] the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. - John 15:1-5
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20
God is love and love is the first fruit of the indwelling Spirit.
We love him, because he first loved us. I John 4:19
And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him. I John 4:16
To God be the glory, not man, never man!
Thanks
for your PURE, ACCURATE, FITTING, APPROPOS
BIBLICAL SCRIPTURES AND TRUTHS
AS USUAL.
It still boggles me that anyone could read into any of those verses the least bit of ANY SALVATION BY WORKS OUT OF ANY MOTIVE WHATSOEVER.
However, given some of the givens, I shouldn’t be all that surprised. Sigh.
What a beautiful post, thank you so much.
The Sermon on the Mount is a source of strength and inspiration.
Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ, and thank you for your encouragements!
Thank you so much for your encouragements, dear sister in Christ!
Dr E., Alex, hasn't this been shown to be extremely inaccurate?
Not that inaccuracies and brazen falsehoods seem to be uncomfortable for the rabid clique types to use.
INDEED. AMEN! AMEN!
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