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“Sure, and the Holy Spirit retired and is living in a condo if Florida...LOL”

The legions of luther and the cavalry of calvin march on down heresy lane...

...in a pathetic, ignorant, illiterate and most brazenly fantastical frenzy of

unBiblical and non Scriptural laziness.

or

just simple-minded clarity of a dog who doesn’t know any better...

focusing on one verse at a time and ignoring the other verses....so sad.


788 posted on 06/19/2010 9:09:01 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (A loud band of PaulBots, Isolationists, Protectionists, 911Inside Jobnuts, 3rdParty Loud Irrelevants)
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To: rbmillerjr; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...
focusing on one verse at a time and ignoring the other verses....so sad. [Quixicated emphasis]

REALLY? LIKE ?THIS?:

.

Maybe one of us should bother to respond a bit to this stinking pile of jerk-water straw dogs . . .

1. That Tradition is an anathema and is absent in the Protestant heresies.

!!!!!!TRADITION!!!!!! in the sense of a bureaucratically documented & sanctioned, magicsterically power-mongeringly demanded as a dogma of the faith etc. etc. etc.

IS ANATHEMA TO MOST PRODDY ORGS.

I've frequently noted hereon that every group that exists longer than 1.5 years is likely to develop traditions which run the risk of being thought of as sanctified and holy when they are mere customs and habits of the local group of humans--humans which have a great compulsion to TELL GOD how holy their customs and habits are and ought so to be considered BY HIM.

Rather than TRUST GOD, we tend to trust THE FAMILIAR for our SECURITY--and thereby end up sanctifying and investing in customs & habits of men some righteous imparting grace by the phoney 'virtue' of merely going through the motions of a custom/tradition/habit/ritual. GOD WILL HAVE NONE OF IT. That's one reason He's forever throwing a monkey wrench into the midst of groups on the brink of such nonsense.

2. That the Christian faith is based exclusively on a book.

NO--not evidently in that idiotic meaning of the word. THE CHRISTIAN FAITH IS BASED ON:

AS
GOD
HIMSELF
REPEATEDLY
DECLARED
AS
A
POINT OF AUTHORITY,
MANY DOZENS OF TIMES,
IN
!!!!!!!GOD'S!!!!!!!
HOLY
WORD:
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"

AS
GOD
HIMSELF
REPEATEDLY
DECLARED
AS
A
POINT OF AUTHORITY,
!AS A SUPREME POINT OF AUTHORITY!
!AS A SUPREME POINT OF AUTHORITY!
!AS A SUPREME POINT OF AUTHORITY!

WHEN
GOD ALMIGHTY
EMPHASES
A SUPREME POINT OF HIS AUTHORITY
ROUGHLY 23 TIMES IN THE NEW TESTAMENT,
HE EXPECTS BELIEVERS
--AND PARTICULARLY CHURCH LEADERS--
TO PAY ATTENTION!
AND TEACH THE SHEEP ACCORDINGLY!
THERE WILL BE A TEST!

And when BIG DADDY
gazes piercingly at the individual in the dock,
AND ASKS,
WHY DIDN'T YOU BELIEVE EVEN
ONE
OF THOSE 23 STATEMENTS OF MY SON?

What will the responses be
from the willfully blind
and compulsively stubborn
folks of the Roman Catholic et al
rabid cliques?

3. That 100% of the revealed Word of God is contained within Scripture.

YES! 100% OF GOD'S !!!!ENSCRIPTURATED!!!! REVEALED WORD
IS
SCRIPTURE.

The Heavens can be construed as God's revealed 'word' about His majesty. The healing of a broken limb of a child miraculously can be construed as God's revealed broken Body of The Living Word for that child's healing. An authentic prophecy from a Spirit-filled Christian prophetic source can be construed as God's revealed word to that congregation and perhaps to others as well. NONE OF THOSE ARE GOD'S REVEALED ENSCRIPTURATED WORD. Nor are they intended to be.

Scripture is sufficient for leading us to embarking on a relationship with God and for maturing in said Relationship.

!!!!TRADITIONS!!!! are not only NOT SUFFICIENT, they are hazardous to spiritual health AS CHRIST MADE VERY CLEAR OF IN HIS EVERY MENTION OF THEM IN THE GOSPELS.

4. That salvation is attainable through faith alone.

IT IS THAT
REDEMPTIVE
FAITH-FILLED THOUGHT
THAT AGREEMENT WITH GOD
THAT CHRIST'S BLOOD COVERS
WHICH SAVES TO THE UTTERMOST. AS Romans puts it:

Romans 10:9
That if you shall confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and shall believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved.

THERE'S
NOTHING
ABOUT
WORKS
THERE!

Evidently you and the Vatican rubber Bible trash:
.
Gal 2:16 [see below],
as well as Gal 3;

IF THE THOUGHT STOPS THERE,
THAT FAITH DIES
USUALLY BY DEGREES AND STAGES.

IT IS THAT FAITH
BREATHED INTO ACTION
WHICH SHOWS FORTH
THE LIVING CHRIST IN US,
THE LIVING CHRIST THROUGH US.
IT IS THAT ACTION WHICH SHOWS
OBSERVABLY THAT THERE
IS
FAITH WITHIN
THE HEART, MIND, SPIRIT, BODY INVOLVED.

Faith without action dies on the vine.
Action without PROPER faith
INVESTED IN CHRIST ALONE
is vain RELIGION and dead already.

IIRC, James declares that he will show his faith BY HIS WORKS.

Romans 3:27
Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

Romans 9:32
Why not? Because they pursued it not by faith but as if it were by works. They stumbled over the "stumbling stone."

Galatians 2:16
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Galatians 3:1-3 (King James Version)

Galatians 3
1O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

2This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

3Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

Galatians 3:1-3 (The Message)

Galatians 3
Trust in Christ, Not the Law
1 You crazy Galatians! Did someone put a hex on you? Have you taken leave of your senses? Something crazy has happened, for it's obvious that you no longer have the crucified Jesus in clear focus in your lives. His sacrifice on the cross was certainly set before you clearly enough.
.
2-4Let me put this question to you: How did your new life begin? Was it by working your heads off to please God? Or was it by responding to God's Message to you? Are you going to continue this craziness? For only crazy people would think they could complete by their own efforts what was begun by God. If you weren't smart enough or strong enough to begin it, how do you suppose you could perfect it? Did you go through this whole painful learning process for nothing? It is not yet a total loss, but it certainly will be if you keep this up!

Galatians 3:1-3 (Amplified Bible)

Galatians 3
1O YOU poor and silly and thoughtless and unreflecting and senseless Galatians! Who has fascinated or bewitched or cast a spell over you, unto whom--right before your very eyes--Jesus Christ (the Messiah) was openly and graphically set forth and portrayed as crucified?
.
2Let me ask you this one question: Did you receive the [Holy] Spirit as the result of obeying the Law and doing its works, or was it by hearing [the message of the Gospel] and believing [it]? [Was it from observing a law of rituals or from a message of faith?]
.
3Are you so foolish and so senseless and so silly? Having begun [your new life spiritually] with the [Holy] Spirit, are you now reaching perfection [by dependence] on the flesh?

Titus 3:8
This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have [ALREADY] believED in God might be careful to [THEN] maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.

Hebrews 6:1 (The Message)

Hebrews 6
1-3So come on, let's leave the preschool fingerpainting exercises on Christ and get on with the grand work of art. Grow up in Christ. The basic foundational truths are in place: turning your back on "salvation by self-help" and turning in trust toward God; baptismal instructions; laying on of hands; resurrection of the dead; eternal judgment. God helping us, we'll stay true to all that. But there's so much more. Let's get on with it!

.

BLESSED BE THE WORD OF THE LORD.
BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.
BLESSED BE THE SALVATION OF THE LORD.
BLESSED BE THOSE WHO LOVE GOD FIRST, FOREMOST, ALWAYS. BLESSED BE THE LORD GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB.

5. That the revelation of Jesus Christ ended with the death of the last Apostle.

That depends on one's definitions.

THE REVELATION OF JESUS THE CHRIST via John is complete and even carries a VERY SEVERE warning about those who would add to or take away from it.

THE ENSCRIPTURATED REVELATION OF JESUS THE MESSIAH IS COMPLETE.

However, CHRIST made very clear that HOLY SPIRIT WOULD LEAD US INTO ALL TRUTH . . . presumeably as we individually needed such specifics in our daily lives--all consistent with and congruent with HIS ENSCRIPTURATED IT-IS-WRITTEN WORD!

Any other nonsense is hazardous folly--particularly having to do with !!!!TRADITIONS!!!! OF MEN AND OF DEMONS--that CHRIST SPOKE MOST HARSHLY ABOUT WHENEVER HE MENTIONED !!!!TRADITIONS!!!! IN THE GOSPELS.

Some of the lurkers may benefit from the above.
We have no illusions that the barking straw dogs of the rabid clique folks will learn a thing from BIBLICAL TRUTHS.

802 posted on 06/19/2010 10:00:30 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: rbmillerjr; Quix

Please inform those of us you call lazy with the magistrums official commentary of scripture..we would like to see just systematic theology what Rome is built on ...


832 posted on 06/20/2010 5:39:39 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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