Posted on 06/13/2010 12:16:24 PM PDT by markomalley
.- Thousands of pilgrims and faithful gathered at noon Sunday in St. Peter’s Square to pray the Angelus with the Holy Father. Before the prayer, he said that the fruits of the recently ended Year for Priests could never be measured, but are already visible and will continue to be ever more so.
“The priest is a gift from the heart of Christ, a gift for the Church and for the world. From the heart of the Son of God, overflowing with love, all the goods of the Church spring forth,” proclaimed Pope Benedict XVI. “One of those goods is the vocations of those men who, conquered by the Lord Jesus, leave everything behind to dedicate themselves completely to the Christian community, following the example of the Good Shepherd.”
The Holy Father described the priest as having been formed by “the same charity of Christ, that love which compelled him to give his life for his friends and to forgive his enemies.”
“Therefore,” he continued, “priests are the primary builders of the civilization of love.”
Benedict XVI exhorted priests to always seek the intercession of St. John Marie Vianney, whose prayer, the “Act of Love,” was prayed frequently during the Year for Priests, and “continues to fuel our dialogue with God.”
The pontiff also spoke about the close of the Year for Priests, which took place this past week and culminated with the Solemnity of the Sacred Heart of Jesus. He emphasized “the unforgettable days in the presence of more than 15,000 priests from around the world.”
The feast of the Sacred Heart is traditionally a “day of priestly holiness,” but this time it was especially so, Benedict XVI remarked.
Pope Benedict concluded his comments by noting that, in contemplating history, “one observes so many pages of authentic social and spiritual renewal which have been written by the decisive contribution of Catholic priests.” These were inspired “only by their passion for the Gospel and for mankind, for his true civil and religious freedom.”
“So many initiatives that promote the entire human being have begun with the intuition of a priestly heart,” he exclaimed.
The Pope then prayed the Angelus, greeted those present in various languages, and imparted his apostolic blessing.
it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is
That is a good description of the Eucharistic presence, which indeed does not feed our senses as it is bread and wine that we taste. Compare Luke 24:31-35 (the encounter at Emmaus, the passage I had the pleasure of discussing with you a few years back).
I showed you where the doctrine of purgatory is taught in the scripture, and as a bonus corrected your grasp of it, and you give me empty agitprop.
Dispensationalism looks to me like another hermeneutical Protestant trick designed to divide the scripture into parts and discarding the parts Protestants don’t like. It is, sorry to say, rubbish.
It is not a contradiction to have levels and degrees of spiritual indwelling. In fact, in ordinary life as well, degrees of intimacy between lovers exist without one level or degree excluding another.
In the case of Christ specially, the Scripture discerns several such levels. He was at the beginning of the creation as pre-existing Christ; He was an unknown to most child; He was an itinerant teacher; He was the victim on the Cross; He was appearing in the resurrected state to select disciples; He gave us the Holy Spirit to indwell in the baptized and lead them; He promised to abide in us as well as letting us abide in Him, — that is the Eucharist — He, finally, will come in Glory at the end of the age. These are all distinct forms of His presence.
How’s that commentary on the second part of James 2 coming, dear?
Still in the Q.
Haven’t forgotten.
The traditions that do not come from scripture are traditions of men.. most of them added after Constantine.
They are accepted on faith alone
Traditions like the "mass" the priesthood, the pope,statues, etc,
Sola Ecclesia Romanus
Only the Church of Rome is the Rule of Faith
Outstanding explanation,dear brother!
From Saint Thomas Aquinas...
SINCE it has been shown that a created intelligence in seeing the divine substance understands therein all the species of things; since moreover all things that are seen by one presentation must be seen together by one vision; it necessarily follows that the intelligence which sees the divine substance views all things, not successively, but simultaneously. Hence Augustine says (De Trinitate XV, xvi): "Our thoughts will not then be unstable, coming and going from one thing to another, but we shall see all our knowledge together at one glance
1Cr 3:15 — If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
Now in context, what is this chapter about? Here Paul is speaking of MINISTRIES..about WORKS not sin.. He is speaking of the rewards for faithful ministries
1And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
2 I have fed you with milk, , and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able
3For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
4For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
5Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
6I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
7So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
8Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
10According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
11For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
What has been done by the Catholic church has taken a scripture out of context (what else is new) and forced a non biblical doctrine into it .
This scriptures is about the judgement of ministries,,(works) It is not about sin ...
Dismas is a Greek name probably derived from the Greek word for "sunset" or "west" and invneted by the Greek Church. There is nothing to indicate he was Greek or that this was his real name. Just something the Church invented at a later date.
Jews and Gentiles did not even eat together let alone discuss their rleigions. If he was Greek he would not have been fmailair with the Jewish faith because it was forbidden to teach Gentiles the Torah. And even if he was taught by one of his criminal buddies, I doubt that would have been a very "orthodox" version of it.
At any rate, no one would have told him that Adam and Eve fell from grace in Eden. Jews don't believe in the human Fall or in the need for man to be "saved." Judaism is a works-based religion based on 613 God's commandments that does not teach or have a word or a concept for "paradise".
The Jewish kingodm of God is Israel liberated by the messiah, wariror-king. It is known as God heavenly kingdom on earth. That the apsotles did not expect Jesus to take them to heaven is obvious even from the very first verses of the Book of Acts when Jesus is asked "So when they had come together, they were asking Him, saying, "Lord, is it at this time You are restoring the kingdom to Israel?" (Act 1:6), belieiving him to be the Jewish messiah.
The account narrated by Luke about the "good thief" is a story that makes sense to a Christian mind, but not to a Greek pagan or Jewish minds. Therefore neither Greek nor paradise would have come into play or be confused with the word kingdom. >[? The thief did nto ask Jesus for a 'blissful place' but merely to remember him in his kingdom. Jesus could have replied "today you will be with me in my kindgom." That would have made more sense vis a vis the request.
Trouble is, what Jesus told him wasn't even true according to what the Church teaches. Christ did nto go to 'his kingdom' but to hell to free the Old Testament righeous. And after three days in hell he came back to earth for another 40 days.
So, linguistically, culturally and theologically the story is obviosuly false. That much is glairngly obvious. What would drive someone to claim otherwise is an engima to me.
As for Luke conferring with Mary, that is yet another legend that grew bigger and bigger as the time went on but no less full of holes.
The thief or liar or disobedient is also a murder in Gods eyes.
The book of James was written to a converted church , not heathens seeking salvation .
It tells them how their conversion is seen by the unsaved world . It is not about becoming saved or being saved. It is about the fruit of your salvation.
Jam 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Jam 2:18 Yea, a man may say ,Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
This is an amplification of the teaching of Jesus that we know a tree by the fruit it bears. It is how we know the saved he SAYS he has faith.
This addresses a hollow profession of faith , not a saving one .
Can a hollow profession save him? NO, any more than works can save.This scripture says to the church that this faith (without outward signs)is non existent , it is dead.
The bible is clear that it is God that gives the faith and it is God that ordains the works of the saved
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
<< John 15 >>
1I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman
. 2Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
3Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
4Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
James is consistent with the words of Christ ,we know a tree by its fruits.. No fruits they have no root in Christ.. they are not saved
Well that sure answers a lot of questions. It explains why your church wants control of Jerusalem and sides with the Arabs.
True, but so is the Bible.
No the bible is inspired
Which one?The modern translations don't match the meanings of the times of the oldest ones canonized
Certainly the protestant translations are flawed
You would have to be intellectually dishonest to ignore this.
Trouble is, you leave out a lot. Christ said, "Today, thou wilt be with me in paradise.". Many Christians understand that before Christ's death on the cross there was one place that was the abode of the souls of the dead. This place was called "hades". Hades was divided into two compartments, Sheol and Paradise also called "Abraham's Bosom". The condemned went to Sheol and the redeemed went to Paradise. The story Jesus told of the beggar, Lazarus, and the rich man spoke of these two places. They were in the same area but had "a great gulf fixed between them" that wasn't cross able.
When Christ died he was buried and he went to Hades to "lead captivity captive". That is, he went to Paradise and lead the redeemed from there to heaven. He never went to Sheol. There would have been no reason, for once a person dies there is no more chance to choose the Lord.
Heaven, the abode of God, was unreachable to anyone until the sacrifice of Jesus, which cleansed the sins of those who were waiting for the Messiah to redeem them. Jesus DID return to earth, but he took the redeemed to heaven, which included the thief on the cross, first. He did not lie and his words were not misquoted.
Sheol the part of Hades where the damned reside still exists. After the Millennial rule of Christ, then Hell will be created for the Devil, the Anti-Christ and the False Prophet according to Revelation 20:10-15. Those who are in Hades will also be judged and cast into Hell. This is called The Great White Throne Judgment.
People who die today either go to Heaven or Hades/Sheol.
Please name them and post their writings
Soul’s of the righteous dead? It’s called Abraham’s bosom. (Luke16:22). But I’m sure you’ve heard of it.
Actually, it explains it ALL.
We are talking about hell,dear friend. Are you calling Abraham’s bosom hell?
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