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To: Dr. Eckleburg

It is not a contradiction to have levels and degrees of spiritual indwelling. In fact, in ordinary life as well, degrees of intimacy between lovers exist without one level or degree excluding another.

In the case of Christ specially, the Scripture discerns several such levels. He was at the beginning of the creation as pre-existing Christ; He was an unknown to most child; He was an itinerant teacher; He was the victim on the Cross; He was appearing in the resurrected state to select disciples; He gave us the Holy Spirit to indwell in the baptized and lead them; He promised to abide in us as well as letting us abide in Him, — that is the Eucharist — He, finally, will come in Glory at the end of the age. These are all distinct forms of His presence.


2,124 posted on 06/27/2010 4:43:37 PM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex
In the case of Christ specially, the Scripture discerns several such levels. He was at the beginning of the creation as pre-existing Christ; He was an unknown to most child; He was an itinerant teacher; He was the victim on the Cross; He was appearing in the resurrected state to select disciples; He gave us the Holy Spirit to indwell in the baptized and lead them; He promised to abide in us as well as letting us abide in Him, — that is the Eucharist — He, finally, will come in Glory at the end of the age. These are all distinct forms of His presence.

Outstanding explanation,dear brother!

From Saint Thomas Aquinas...

SINCE it has been shown that a created intelligence in seeing the divine substance understands therein all the species of things; since moreover all things that are seen by one presentation must be seen together by one vision; it necessarily follows that the intelligence which sees the divine substance views all things, not successively, but simultaneously. Hence Augustine says (De Trinitate XV, xvi): "Our thoughts will not then be unstable, coming and going from one thing to another, but we shall see all our knowledge together at one glance

2,128 posted on 06/27/2010 5:22:35 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: annalex
It is not a contradiction to have levels and degrees of spiritual indwelling.

Ah, yes. Some pigs are more equal than other pigs.

Your contradictions disprove your theory. Christ either indwells a man or He doesn't. There is nothing in Scripture that says Christ indwells one of His sheep 20% every other Tuesday and 40% every Saturday, excluding bank holidays and Canadian Labor Day...

That's just more of Rome's contrivance to fill the gap between the Bible and its manifold doctrines of men.

2,173 posted on 06/28/2010 12:58:47 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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