Posted on 06/13/2010 12:16:24 PM PDT by markomalley
.- Thousands of pilgrims and faithful gathered at noon Sunday in St. Peter’s Square to pray the Angelus with the Holy Father. Before the prayer, he said that the fruits of the recently ended Year for Priests could never be measured, but are already visible and will continue to be ever more so.
“The priest is a gift from the heart of Christ, a gift for the Church and for the world. From the heart of the Son of God, overflowing with love, all the goods of the Church spring forth,” proclaimed Pope Benedict XVI. “One of those goods is the vocations of those men who, conquered by the Lord Jesus, leave everything behind to dedicate themselves completely to the Christian community, following the example of the Good Shepherd.”
The Holy Father described the priest as having been formed by “the same charity of Christ, that love which compelled him to give his life for his friends and to forgive his enemies.”
“Therefore,” he continued, “priests are the primary builders of the civilization of love.”
Benedict XVI exhorted priests to always seek the intercession of St. John Marie Vianney, whose prayer, the “Act of Love,” was prayed frequently during the Year for Priests, and “continues to fuel our dialogue with God.”
The pontiff also spoke about the close of the Year for Priests, which took place this past week and culminated with the Solemnity of the Sacred Heart of Jesus. He emphasized “the unforgettable days in the presence of more than 15,000 priests from around the world.”
The feast of the Sacred Heart is traditionally a “day of priestly holiness,” but this time it was especially so, Benedict XVI remarked.
Pope Benedict concluded his comments by noting that, in contemplating history, “one observes so many pages of authentic social and spiritual renewal which have been written by the decisive contribution of Catholic priests.” These were inspired “only by their passion for the Gospel and for mankind, for his true civil and religious freedom.”
“So many initiatives that promote the entire human being have begun with the intuition of a priestly heart,” he exclaimed.
The Pope then prayed the Angelus, greeted those present in various languages, and imparted his apostolic blessing.
Very good.
Paul is one of the two greatest Apostles and a great and far reaching source of doctrinal beliefs. But he is not God. There are many here who think that he is, and want to move Jesus and the Gospels to the background. How many times have we been told about the Gospel of Paul and how that is what we ought to believe, right here on FR by many of your comrades?
I think that it would help everyone to read all of Acts of the Apostles. And yes, I have a Bible or two, thanks for asking.
That Calvin sought power and control? Hardly both sides.
Either Calvin was a miser or a spendthrift. lol.
When it came to power and control, it really didn't matter.
Or maybe neither. Maybe he was as these other links describe him -- a thoroughly God-fearing, God-glorifying man who devoted his life to Jesus Christ and His sheep.
And maybe Rod Blagojevich was framed.
Read the "INSTITUTES OF THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION," Mark. Next to the Bible, it is the greatest book ever written.
I have read it, at least as much as my stomach would allow. It is filth and it is one of the most anti Christian screeds that I have ever read. It is said that Calvin learned much from Mohammed (and Smith learned much from Calvin). I tend to agree.
Are you sure that you want to get called out on all of your spelling, grammatical and factual mistakes on this forum?
I stand with God. I cannot help who you guys stand with. I cannot withstand the lord of this world by myself, no, thanks for noting that. I profess the opposite of Milton (and Calvin). I would rather serve in Heaven than reign in hell. It's really not complicated just believe The Gospel.
With respect, you guys don't know the Gospel. Snippets of Paul do not the Gospel make. The four Gospels make up the Gospel. We differ considerably.
You will instantly see you're on the other side of the Cross.
Certainly. Unlike stiff necked Calvinists, I literally kneel to Christ. I do not believe that because of Paul's snippets, that Christ serves me. We are considerably at odds, that's for sure.
Last time you checked? What year did you do that? Come, now. Or are you relying on the mythical ex Catholic husband who is such a wealth of Catholic knowledge?
“the scripture in Matthew 5-7, 25 and Romans 2:6-10 plainly speaks of salvation and condemnation and not of rewards additionally obtained by the elect.”
Romans 2: 6-10 is so clear, yet ignored by our brothers.
There, fixed it for you.
Its amazing how so many of the failed Catholics who directly or indirectly participate in Catholic bashing on these threads try to project their failures and ignorance on to the successful Catholics.
If I were Presbyterian in the United States, I'd pray that the priestesses that run the Presbyterian church are wise enough to either pay off the mortgages rather quickly or go for a short term lease. Empty pews don't tithe...
I was attempting to show him through Acts 28 that Israel becomes blinded and salvation is sent to the Gentiles. Unbelieving Israel is indeed blinded until the Body of Christ is complete, we are raptured
Raptured? Completely unBiblical. Not Christian. Will you identify which group you belong to?
sorry for any confusion, I falsely assume Mark will read and study for himself.
Sure. Nutty theology does require some study in order to ensure that one keeps away from it and can refute it.
“Because your church is not the church of the scripture...Because the scripture says the Holy Spirit will open our understanding”
You know not of which you speak as the Catholic Church believes in the inerrancy of the Bible.
Which one?
The Gospel of the Kingdom or The Gospel of Grace?
We differ considerably.
Only because you're standing on the wrong side of the Cross. You can join us any time.
I do not believe that because of Paul's snippets, that Christ serves me. We are considerably at odds, that's for sure.
If you want to reject Scripture that's your choice. I can't force you to do anything. I think if you see a conflict between the books Paul wrote and other books the problem isn't in the Scriptures. The problem is in the lens your reading them through.
You flatter me.
I can only hope there is a special place in Hell for the wallowers who post here.
I can ask my OPC friends to call ahead for you to arrange for any of your special needs.
“The ‘evil’ on the other hand, think they somehow have the capacity to do something good enough that Jesus didn’t have to pay their debt...They’ll pay it themselves...”
That’s just horrible synthesis. I don’t know of any Protestant or Catholic or any other Christians that believes that “Jesus didn’t have to pay their debt”. It’s what you do with that great gift that matters.
Does that mean that I am qualified to debate one on one with you?
Protestantism is the majority religion in Germany.
And which areas of Germany are most prosperous?
It's about evenly divided between Protestants and Catholics in Canada.
About?
France is Roman Catholic because Rome slaughtered all the Protestants 450 years ago. Even so, you can have France.
Not ALL of them.
We'll take England, Sweden and the United States. Happily.
Good for you. Dig deep into your wallet - they'll be really expensive. But since England is making the moves right now to be a Catholic country once again to combat the Muslims that the Protestant government has let in (remember that the KJV and the Westminster are the property and fiat of the monarchy of England), perhaps we will be able to reclaim them to the civilized and moral world.
According to the CIA Factbook, the list of countries by real GDP growth rate reveals that Ireland's GNP ranks 203rd and their GNP has actually declined 7.5% this past year.
You are just too funny, Dr. E. You quote the CIA Factbook, and link to Wikipedia. It's a good thing that Calvinists are just as inept in secular life as they are in spiritual life. You guys provide never ending entertainment for Christians.
The Church is a Chuch of sinners, and absolutely we have our share. I don't compare myself with these three at all. I might ask you about your self comparison with Ted Haggard or Jimmy Swaggart, but I really don't care.
Prove it. He attended the UCC of Jeremiah Wright for what - 20 years? He says that he is a Christian. I think that you might even claim that for yourself, come to think of it...
you're in the wrong dispensation
you're following the wrong gospel
you're ignoring the Gospel that saves.
Once again, it's your choice. God gives you that right.
I understand. The American public school educational system is a thorn and a burden that must be gotten rid of.
Please sir, I beg you, make sense, man.
I suppose that I could ask you to attend a parochial school.
I cannot take a stand when I'm thrown out on the floor laughing!lol!!!
Ah. The same overwhelming emotion I feel when reading about Reformed theology.
Correct.
You have said in the past, and even now, that you don't see that he understood the concept. I have tried to show you from epistles written by Paul that certainly prove he well grasped the belief. The verses discussed do appear to me to make the statements necessary to conclude his undestanding and, because his words were inspired by the Holy Spirit would not contradict the true nature of the trinity.
He may or may not have understood it, based upon his revelation from Christ, but my point is that his writings never reflect it. It wasn't until John, writing decades after the rest of what would become the NT had been written, attempted to pull it all together and start to become explicit about the Trinity. My friend Kosta knows something about the later changes in NT writings in an attempt to harmonize the Gospel message and smooth the apparent differences between Paul and the other Apostles, and certainly between Paul and Jesus.
The verses discussed do appear to me to make the statements necessary to conclude his undestanding and, because his words were inspired by the Holy Spirit would not contradict the true nature of the trinity.
Paul does not have a very good grasp on the Divinity of Jesus according to his words. For example:
1 Corinthians 15: 20 7 8 But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.
Christ raised from the dead: Christ is lesser and the One doing the raising is greater. Firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep? A man given first place in Heaven. Right?
Romans 5: For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by one man's obedience many will be made righteous.
One man?
For reference, the Nicene Creed of 325 explicitly affirms the divinity of Jesus, applying to him the term "God". The 381 version speaks of the Holy Spirit as worshipped and glorified with the Father and the Son. These verses do that too. I am glad you believe in the trinity. It is not an easy thing to try to describe and define it in ways everyone can understand. It takes faith to accept God at his word. I have no doubt Paul "got it" and also taught it.
Absolutely I believe in the Trinity and in the Nicene and Athenasian Creeds. I'm not sure how far Paul got it. I have been accused of calling Paul anti Trinitarian, but I have always maintained that Paul is NOT expressly Trinitarian by Nicene standards, and we have enough of his writings in order to show it.
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