Baby Bust: The Demographics of Global Depression

Taki Magazine ^ | December 08, 2008 | Spengler

[Age of Reason]

So the next time you hear the words over population point out that little factoid. BTW it is very easy to prove mathematically. Figure how many people on average you can get into a Square yard (on average 3-4)

Even Sing Sing was more generous than the world you imagine:

"A cell for Sing Sing was only seven feet long by three feet wide and six feet seven inches high.

"It was little more than a cubbyhole for a human being. One warden later wrote that the cells were 'too small for their purpose and have been condemned for years; they have poor ventilation and their unsanitary condition is intensified by the necessary use of cell buckets, the most objectionable and injurious relics of a primitive prison system.'

"The design for the facility called for the construction of 800 such cells, stacked on top of each other, four cells high, in a building that was 476 feet long. But Lynds was a rigid disciplinarian and a relentless taskmaster. He pushed the inmates to the limits of human endurance and ruled by the whip and the yoke."

[Mad Dawgg]

"I’ve heard that if you put them all in groups of 4 in single family houses, they would all fit in the state of Texas."

With room left over.

[Age of Reason]

be denied access to vacation spots

If it weren't for overpopulation, we'd all be living in places like those vacation spots, instead of increasing numbers of us living in dirty, crowded, smelly, digusting cities.

Which is just where liberals would like us to live: in "population centers" where they can control us and where many rules and regulations and big government is needed to control our behavior.

Like how in a crowded lifeboat, it's share and share alike--what's yours is theirs and what's theirs is yours--or else.

[Mad Dawgg]

Ahh dewd you do realize the idea was for a group photo, or is "not getting the point" something you excel at?

I've had University Professors astonished at the answer to the riddle. It goes to show how often we have been lied to.

Bottom line when people use words like overcrowded for the state of this Nation they have nothing at all to back up such a claim. We are not even close. Its just some folks choose to live in close proximity to other in cities but the vast majority of this nation is relatively empty. Especially out West.

Hell the area I live in in Southern Ohio has areas near me where you can walk for days and see not another soul.

[Gen-X-Dad]

The perfect storm for the ruling elites of modern day Western civilization:

1) Overpopulation causes a great concern that the ruling elites will run out of resources to live their lives the way they want to (ever wonder why billionaires seem obsessed with supporting environmentalism, birth control, abortion, and turning large chunks of property into state controlled reserves?). Their Malthusian obsession is very evident in our time.

2) With advancements in technology, the ruling elites really don’t need all of us hanging around to meet their needs. Huxley estimated a cap of 2 billion in “Brave New World”, the Georgia Guidestones push for a cap of 500 million.

3) We have seen decades of social engineering promoting zero population growth a.k.a. ZPG (abortion, destruction of heterosexual marriage, rise of homosexuality, birth control, obsessive protection of environment at expense of humans, etc.). They have been very successful in accomplishing their goals through this social engineering based on the evidence of the demographic curves.

4) However, someone forgot to persuade the equatorial regions to buy into ZPG and now Western Civilization can quite simply be overrun as soon as the current crop of human beings die off. This has happened many times in the past, stagnant populations are dismissed while more vibrant populations take over.

5) The ruling elites have set up their Western financial system to be driven by constant growth (steady inflation, steady increase in producing and selling things to consumers). Essentially they have constructed an elaborate ponzi scheme which is buckling under the pressure of unsustainable growth. They have the success of ZPG to thank for accelerating this problem.

They are in a conundrum of their own making. The nature of unintended consequences is upon us.

[Star Traveler]

Here is the video "Demographic Winter" ... which everyone should see. Take a look and see how you've been tricked and fooled into believing the garbage about population explosion and the need for reducing the population ... LOL ... what a "liberal lie" that has been ...

1. Demographic Winter - The Decline of the Human Family
2. Demographic Winter - The Decline of the Human Family
3. Demographic Winter - The Decline of the Human Family
4. Demographic Winter - The Decline of the Human Family
5. Demographic Winter - The Decline of the Human Family
6. Demographic Winter - The Decline of the Human Family
7. Demographic Winter - The Decline of the Human Family
8. Demographic Winter - The Decline of the Human Family
9. Demographic Winter - The Decline of the Human Family
10. Demographic Winter - The Decline of the Human Family
11. Demographic Winter - The Decline of the Human Family

[tdscpa]

And you would prefer to live in a place where your food has to be grown in the space between your feet?

[Leisler]

And yet the state needs the backs of children to dump debts on, to borrow against, to maintain the vote buying/spoils distributing ponzi racket.

Right now we have world wide approached maximum taxation and are squeezing the last delusion that we can tax future non existing children to borrow against.

We are in the final stages of a Madoff economy. Soon there will be a run for the door. First pensioned government minions to gets out, wins.

The grandiose dream of Obama is a symptom of a population that wanted to double it’s bets to get out of the leftist hole that it is in.

We could be entering the end stage of the Roman Empire, where the center ( demographics) collapses. Like the Empire we will take in foreigners to fill the ranks, thinking that if we keep the bureaucratic forms, populate them with foreigners who don’t have the values, have no idea how they were built, that they will carry on our values thought our institutions. This is the leave your business and home to the Mafia theory and it will be just fine.

[Mad Dawgg]

"And you would prefer to live in a place where your food has to be grown in the space between your feet?"

Ahh are you not understanding? The point is we don't have to live like that in the USA because the place is so damn big and there is so few people.

If yopu put ALL the people in the world in the USA there would only be around 2000 per square mile take it down to square yards and that is 1 person for each 15488 Sqaure yards that is an area equal to almost three football fields.

In other words if we put all the people of the world into an area the size of the land mass of the USA they would each get and plot 50 yards wide by 309.76 yards long. A normal family of four in a New york Suburb lives on a lot usually one 13th that size. ONE person would get 13 times more than that if we divided up the land of the USA equally between ALL the people of the world.

So as you see your statement "And you would prefer to live in a place where your food has to be grown in the space between your feet?" not only makes no sense whatsoever it shows you have yet to grasp the concept.

[tdscpa]

When you have the population density to your liking, where are you going to play golf, fish, hunt, shoot your Barrett .50 cal., shop, watch your kids play “soccer”, etc.

What family of 4 of those you want to be your neighbors are going to give up their 1/4 acre so some farmer can grow the wheat your family consumes? Corn? Soybeans? Beef? Swine? Poultry? Vegetables? Fruit?

If you want to live standing-room-only why don't you just move to Hong Kong or somewhere similar now, so you can enjoy the crowd immediately.

Have you ever been anywhere in the US other than your neighborhood? If so, you should have noticed there are more than a few square miles that are not suitable for habitation, or even cultivation. Parts are under water. Parts are deserts. Parts are at elevations or slopes unsuitable for residences or cultivation. All of these conditions should change your allocations of land to the masses you want to live next to.

[Mad Dawgg]

"Have you ever been anywhere in the US other than your neighborhood? If so, you should have noticed there are more than a few square miles that are not suitable for habitation, or even cultivation. Parts are under water. Parts are deserts. Parts are at elevations or slopes unsuitable for residences or cultivation. All of these conditions should change your allocations of land to the masses you want to live next to."

Really are you truly just trying real hard not to get it? The population of World is nearly 7 Billion the Population of the USA is just 5% of that. The example shown would give pone person an area 13 TIMES THE LAND MASS THAT AN AVERAGE AMERICAN FAMILY OF 4 LIVES ON. AND THAT IS 20 TIMES THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE USA. We can double our population in the USA and everyone could have 5 times more land mass than they have now and still not live in areas not suitable for daily living with plenty left over to farm and for recreation and for retail and manufacturing space AND still have all the national parks etc.

Are you getting it now Sparky? The USA is not even CLOSE to being overcrowded no matter how hard you or anyone else tries to make it so with verbal gymnastics. BTW I've been to goodly portion of the USA. I've driven from the East Coast to the Rockies several times. That is why I smile and giggle every time some yahoo spouts off about overcrowding in America. Drive through parts of Kansas or New Mexico or Nevada or North or South Dakota and you can drive for miles on end and see no sign of Human habitation. Just open country.

The USA is huge and there is damn few people in it by comparison. And that my friend is an undeniable fact.

[tanknetter]

Take a look and see how you've been tricked and fooled into believing the garbage about population explosion ...

Except *I* haven't been fooled. I've (and others on FR) been saying for years that the declining birthrates are going to cause massive problems as the payer/recipient ratio for entitlements drops.

Not just economic, either. Europe has attempted to counter its declining birthrates through immigration. Which for them involved predominantly Muslim countries. It's the reason why the #2 name for baby boys in the UK is some derivation of "Mohammed". There's going to be a very bad cascading effect, which has already begun (see "Malmo" for instance), as these new immigrants to Europe arrive not to assimilate into their new societies, but seek to impose their culture (read: Sharia) upon them.

The US will probably need to do so too, eventually. We're lucky though, in that our "backfill" immigration will come mainly from the Roman Catholic societies of Central and South America.

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[RKBA Democrat]

An excellent article, but with one glaring problem: “To break the vicious circle, America needs to find productive young people to whom to lend.”

Debt is not necessarily a good way to develop wealth. And the culture is changing. We’re slowly but surely rejecting debt as a lifestyle.

[RKBA Democrat]

“America is overpopulated as it is.”

LOL!

You obviously haven’t traveled much. There are areas of the west where you can drive on a highway and not see another human being for 40-50 miles (Wyoming, S.D, N.D., AZ to name a few examples). Even in the “overcrowded” east where I currently live, I can travel 30 minutes and be in very thinly populated areas.

Overpopulation, particularly in the U.S., is a tired canard.

[RKBA Democrat]

“The US will probably need to do so too, eventually. We’re lucky though, in that our “backfill” immigration will come mainly from the Roman Catholic societies of Central and South America.”

I’m not sure we’ll need to backfill all that much. I saw some stats recently (can’t put my hand on them) that indicate that the birthrate in the U.S. seems to be ticking up a bit. If we actually put sane immigration and taxation policies for families in place, we’ll be poised to do very well.

Countries like Russia are probably beyond the tipping point.

[Brian Kopp DPM]

You should change your screen name. Try Eclipse of Reason.

[GOPJ]

Thanks

[GOPJ]

Countries with good "social security" systems have few births.

Countries without social security systems use children for that purpose - and there's an abundance of children.

[Clemenza]

There won’t be a Russia in 2050, they have a negative birthrate.

1. Russia isn't and has never been a western country.

2. The only reason I care about Russia disappearing is the potential for its nukes and oil to fall into more nefarious hands than they have right now.