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To: vladimir998

I don’t believe that we lose our free will after we have received Christ. We still have the free will to give up our salvation (imo). No one can take it but we can forfeit it if that becomes our desire.


52 posted on 05/26/2010 7:22:19 AM PDT by Need4Truth (the just shall live by faith.)
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To: Need4Truth

I believe in free will as well. God does not save us against our will.


53 posted on 05/26/2010 7:27:35 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: Need4Truth

>>> I don’t believe that we lose our free will after we have received Christ. We still have the free will to give up our salvation (imo). No one can take it but we can forfeit it if that becomes our desire.

Free Will... such a horribly misunderstood concept.

If freedom comes from God, then how are the Godless free?

Who has more free will? those who separate themselves from God to gain freedom? or those who give at least some portion of that free will back to God from which it came?

Every sentient being (humans as well as angels) possess free will... but there is NO creature in creation with unlimited free will.... that of course is exclusive to God.
Every choice we make... every situation we are faced with comes with choices. However, those choices are limited. The free will we are given comes with limitations.

If you make the choice to sell your home, and sign your name to the contract, does your free will permit you to repossess the house?

If you really gave your life to God, and swore “not my will but Yours God”.... is it your right to take back what you have given to Him???

Would God call one to salvation whom He knows will at some point in the future destroy every ounce of effort He invested from the point of salvation forward?... only for that effort to become a shining example of failure for the enemy to wave like a banner of victory in God’s face?

How much money would you invest in your new home if you knew that the contract included an at-will repossession clause from the seller?

If you enter into marriage, are you not giving up some of your “free will” in exchange for the trust and loyalty of your spouse? What happens to free will there?

Oh... and before the issue of divorce is argued in response, please read the book of Hosea and consider why that book is in the bible at all.

God does not break His covenants... EVER.


62 posted on 05/26/2010 8:10:08 AM PDT by Safrguns
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