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To: Quix

Quix, we do not worship Mary. It is disturbing that you’ve probably been told that by others thousands of times, and you still refuse to accept the doctrine. Could your soft-stance on Satan be responsible for your continual need to interpret the Church from your own selfish standpoint?


612 posted on 05/01/2010 7:14:51 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: mlizzy; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; hope; ..
Which word did you not understand?

I've documented worship in OFFICIAL ROMAN CATHOLIC ET AL writings.

I've seen it on these threads.

I've observed it in the lives of a number of Roman Catholics et al I've known.

A rose is a rose is a rose by any other name is still a rose.

Ditto Worship.

Thankfully, NOT ALL Roman Catholics et al do.

If you can read the quotes I've made from Ferraro's book and not recognize worship, then I don't think we are on the same planet, not in the same galactic cluster and

CERTAINLY NOT READING FROM THE SAME

UN-RUBBERIZED DICTIONARY.

BTW, I'M NOT AT ALL SOFT ON SATAN. I just don't think he's worthy my hate. I don't allow him to be in charge of my emotions--even toward him.

I gather you are different on that score.

617 posted on 05/01/2010 7:21:07 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: mlizzy

Save your breath. This isn’t about conversation. This isn’t about thought.

I thank God that he considers us worthy to be insulted and abused in this way for the service of the Gospel.


618 posted on 05/01/2010 7:22:00 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: mlizzy; Quix

Main Entry: wor·ship

1 chiefly British : a person of importance —used as a title for various officials (as magistrates and some mayors)

2 : reverence offered a divine being or supernatural power; also : an act of expressing such reverence

3 : a form of religious practice with its creed and ritual

4 : extravagant respect or admiration for or devotion to an object of esteem *worship of the dollar*

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Catholics pray to Mary, asking her to grant answers to their requests. They, by their own admission, love and revere her, all activities which should be solely directed towards God.

They defend her with as much fervor, if not more, than they defend Christ. More from what I’ve seen, because when other religions teach error about who Jesus is, they don’t get as bent out of shape as they do when someone tries to point out accurate Biblical teaching about Mary.

Roman Catholics can deny it all they want, but in essence, the worship Mary.

If they’re going to get anywhere convincing the world that they don’t, then they’re going to have to do away with the prayers to Mary, the statues of her, and the irrational, unfounded, unScriptural teachings about her.

When they have to make things up about her to defend, or rather excuse, their attitude towards her, they are, in essence, worshiping her.


624 posted on 05/01/2010 7:37:14 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: mlizzy; Quix

Main Entry: wor·ship

1 : to honor or reverence as a divine being or supernatural power
2 : to regard with great or extravagant respect, honor, or devotion *a celebrity worshipped by her fans*


625 posted on 05/01/2010 7:40:21 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: mlizzy; Quix; count-your-change; Iscool; Dr. Eckleburg; Outership; boatbums; Alex Murphy; ...
Quix, we do not worship Mary.

Oh? You don't?

That's not what comes across on this thread.

Give it all to Mary [Catholic Caucus]

Treating Mary like God is not going to get you anything as God is the only one who can answer prayer.

Give it all to whom?

The answer is supposed to be God. Anyone else pushes it into idolatry.

Matthew 22:34-40 Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."

Mark 12:28-31 One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, "Of all the commandments, which is the most important?" "The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.' The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'There is no commandment greater than these."

Luke 10:26-28 "What is written in the Law?" he replied. "How do you read it?" He answered: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'" "You have answered correctly," Jesus replied. "Do this and you will live."

If you don't worship Mary, why are you advocating giving it all to HER?

642 posted on 05/01/2010 8:34:24 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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