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To: mlizzy; Quix; count-your-change; Iscool; Dr. Eckleburg; Outership; boatbums; Alex Murphy; ...
Quix, we do not worship Mary.

Oh? You don't?

That's not what comes across on this thread.

Give it all to Mary [Catholic Caucus]

Treating Mary like God is not going to get you anything as God is the only one who can answer prayer.

Give it all to whom?

The answer is supposed to be God. Anyone else pushes it into idolatry.

Matthew 22:34-40 Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."

Mark 12:28-31 One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, "Of all the commandments, which is the most important?" "The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.' The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'There is no commandment greater than these."

Luke 10:26-28 "What is written in the Law?" he replied. "How do you read it?" He answered: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'" "You have answered correctly," Jesus replied. "Do this and you will live."

If you don't worship Mary, why are you advocating giving it all to HER?

642 posted on 05/01/2010 8:34:24 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
You will never believe this. I am saying it because I know saints and angels will rejoice at it.

When I give it all to my wife, we not only have a baby, but together we raise her, and carry her through deathly illness to health, and see her become a strong warrior for Jesus in her own right. Giving it all to each other meant we had more to give to each other and more to give to our daughter.

Giving it all to Jesus has meant having more to give. Giving that more to Mary, has mean having more to give to Jesus. And more to give, period. Giving some, in my case, to Dominic -- and lately Blessed Margaret of Castello and Blessed Jordan and Saxony have come to my attention -- ends up with a stronger passion to give all to Jesus, so that my hourly prayer to Him is that he take my heart and fill it with himself.

Sure, on PAPER, with a bean-counter spirituality, it would seem that to spend love here would mean less love to spend there. I can understand the thinking. But God is Love, so to Love there is no end. So transfinite arithmetic will do far better than the cold and parsimonious love which counts love spent here as love lost there.

This is not the zero-sum mathematics that leads to talents wrapped in a napkin and buried. This is the arithmetic of talents traded and doubled that the master who has everything will have more, and will share that more with all.

645 posted on 05/01/2010 8:57:58 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: metmom

INDEED.

It still don’t see that issue very reasonably addressed by the other side—much less sufficiently.

I wish I did.


650 posted on 05/01/2010 9:19:17 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: metmom
PietaMetmom, Mary is a go-between, and you evidently didn't read Fr. Mark's prayer in its totality or you would have read these words;

" ... as my Advocate and all-powerful intercessor and Mediatrix, present them to thy Son.

Nowhere in Father Mark's prayer, does he refer to Mary as God. Her purpose is to bring people to her Son. If you'd like to learn about the Catholic Faith, instead of spreading calumny, please see the Catechism of the Catholic Church, and anything written by Father J. Hardon. My husband recommended Aquinas or Augustine, and he especially recommended The Story of a Soul, which is an autobiography of St. Therese of Lisieux, "The Little Flower." It is an easy read, whereas Aquinas and/or Augustine are surely tougher. One of my favorite holy books as a complement to the Holy Bible is The Imitation of Christ by Thomas A. Kempis. If you read anything from these books (here's a link to search the Catechism) and wish to discuss their content, that would be cool.
700 posted on 05/02/2010 5:41:55 AM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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