Now, now.
You know good and well that the V Edifice doesn’t tolerate facts and logic . . . except when it’s
fantasizing them for some new dogma out of whole cloth.
Well, what's interesting here is that metmom did not understand the distinction between a valid argument based on a false premise and an invalid argument.
AND she argued and persists in arguing against the plain sense of Psalm 115:3.
It may be that you will characterize the realism and virtue-based ethics of the schoolmen as some Vatican fantasy.
But, strangely, the scholastic approach to the question "Can God do whatever he wants?" not only comports with the plain sense of scripture but also preserves and elucidates the concept of omnipotence.
That is, non-Catholics are telling me that despite the testimony of Ps 115:3, God is NOT omnipotent and there are things he is unable ("cannot") do, andthey are ridiculing me and complaining that my quotes from Scripture are unscriptural ! But I am almost alone in supporting the plain meaning of Scripture, in reconciling the text already cited with the sayings that God cannot lie or change.
YOUR side argues that a text is Scripture is just wrong. My side shows how it is right. Then your side says my side invents stuff.
And all along, your side claims "sola scriptura" and at the same time says a verse of Scripture is wrong!
Who is inventing here? Who is dodging the facts of what is in the Bible or the logic of an approach to metaphysics and ethics which comports with and reconciles the plain sense of Scripture.
In response to our doing what you say we don't do and accomplishing what you say cannot be accomplished, WHILE we prove more faithful to Scripture than your side, what we get it charges of ducking facts and logic and of making inventions and fantasies.
So here metmom makes, not once but twice, a vague charge about Vatican II -- a charge so vague and indefinite as to particulars that it cannot be defended against, and once again all we get is the noise about logic, facts, and fantasies.
So, what can I say? Enjoy the startling lack of insight evidenced by (a) disagreeing with a clear text from the Bible while (b) accusing the other side of not paying attention to the clear texts of the Bible.
"Our God is in heaven, whatever he wills to do, he does."