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To: metmom; Mad Dawg; MarkBsnr; narses; Judith Anne; netmilsmom
“There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside of which no one at all can be saved.”

Jesus Christ was very clear when he said "MY Church", why would you want to pluralize something that God clearly said was singular. Additionally, the Church does not teach that Orthodox or Protestants are outside salvation; Innocent III was very purposeful saying "Church of the faithful," our faith is in God.

As far as Unam Sanctum, are you suggesting that Jesus Christ was LYING when in Matthew 16:19?

1,696 posted on 05/04/2010 5:58:10 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Just quoting the popes.

I didn’t say it or make it up.

It jives with what I was taught growing up as a Catholic.


1,697 posted on 05/04/2010 6:02:58 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wagglebee

No, Of course I’m not saying that Jesus lied.

However, there is more than one interpretation of that verse.

http://bible.cc/matthew/16-19.htm


1,700 posted on 05/04/2010 6:13:24 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wagglebee
Additionally, the Church does not teach that Orthodox or Protestants are outside salvation; Innocent III was very purposeful saying "Church of the faithful," our faith is in God.

Those popes were very specific about it being the Roman Catholic Church.

I would like to see some source that indicates that Pope Innocent had some other church in mind than the Roman Catholic church, of which he was the head.

What other churches were in existence in those days to which he might have been referring?

1,701 posted on 05/04/2010 6:16:26 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wagglebee

>>Additionally, the Church does not teach that Orthodox or Protestants are outside salvation<<

TRUE

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20070629_responsa-quaestiones_en.html


1,719 posted on 05/04/2010 7:53:46 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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