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Give Your All To . . . ? . . . . [A Rel Forum Research thread--Open]
Bible, Vultus Christi, Quix's noggin ^ | 28 APR 2010; 30 APR 2010 | Jesus, Mark Kirby & Quix

Posted on 04/30/2010 8:03:48 AM PDT by Quix

GIVE IT ALL TO . . . ? . . . .

--A Research Thread--

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7 “When you pray, don’t babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered merely by repeating their words again and again. 8 Don’t be like them, for your Father knows exactly what you need even before you ask him! 9 Pray like this:

Our Father in heaven,
may your name be kept holy.
10 May your Kingdom come soon.
May your will be done on earth,
as it is in heaven.
11 Give us today the food we need,[a]
12 and forgive us our sins,
as we have forgiven those who sin against us.
13 And don’t let us yield to temptation,[b]
but rescue us from the evil one.[c]

--New Living Translation

7And when you pray, do not heap up phrases (multiply words, repeating the same ones over and over) as the Gentiles do, for they think they will be heard for their much speaking. [I Kings 18:25-29.]

8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him.

9Pray, therefore, like this:

Our Father Who is in heaven, hallowed (kept holy) be Your name.
10Your kingdom come, Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
11Give us this day our daily bread.
12And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven ([e]left, remitted, and let go of the debts, and have [f]given up resentment against) our debtors.
13And lead (bring) us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.

14For if you forgive people their trespasses [their [g]reckless and willful sins, [h]leaving them, letting them go, and [i]giving up resentment], your heavenly Father will also forgive you.

15But if you do not forgive others their trespasses [their [j]reckless and willful sins, [k]leaving them, letting them go, and [l]giving up resentment], neither will your Father forgive you your trespasses.

--Amplified

Pray with Simplicity

5"And when you come before God, don't turn that into a theatrical production either. All these people making a regular show out of their prayers, hoping for stardom! Do you think God sits in a box seat?

6"Here's what I want you to do: Find a quiet, secluded place so you won't be tempted to role-play before God. Just be there as simply and honestly as you can manage. The focus will shift from you to God, and you will begin to sense his grace.

7-13"The world is full of so-called prayer warriors who are prayer-ignorant. They're full of formulas and programs and advice, peddling techniques for getting what you want from God. Don't fall for that nonsense. This is your Father you are dealing with, and he knows better than you what you need. With a God like this loving you, you can pray very simply. Like this:

Our Father in heaven,
Reveal who you are.
Set the world right;
Do what's best— as above, so below.
Keep us alive with three square meals.
Keep us forgiven with you and forgiving others.
Keep us safe from ourselves and the Devil.
You're in charge!
You can do anything you want!
You're ablaze in beauty!
Yes. Yes. Yes.

14-15"In prayer there is a connection between what God does and what you do. You can't get forgiveness from God, for instance, without also forgiving others. If you refuse to do your part, you cut yourself off from God's part.

16-18"When you practice some appetite-denying discipline to better concentrate on God, don't make a production out of it. It might turn you into a small-time celebrity but it won't make you a saint. If you 'go into training' inwardly, act normal outwardly. Shampoo and comb your hair, brush your teeth, wash your face. God doesn't require attention-getting devices. He won't overlook what you are doing; he'll reward you well.
--THE MESSAGE

Mark Kirby:

O Mother of Good Counsel,
Mother of Perpetual Help,
I turn with confidence to thy maternal Heart,
and I renew my total and irrevocable consecration to thee.

I am all thine, Most Holy Mary,
and all that I have is thine.
I give thee my past with its burdens.
I give thee this present moment with its anxieties and fears.
I give thee my future and all that it holds.

There is no part of my life that is not open to thee,
no place so secret, or so darkened by sin
that thy presence and thy influence
are not wholly and ardently desired there.

I want to be completely transparent with thee,
utterly simple, guileless, and childlike.
Thou knowest, O Mother,
all my preoccupations,
all my intentions,
and all those recommended to my prayer.
Take them, I beseech thee, to thy Immaculate Heart
and, as my Advocate, my all-powerful intercessor, and my Mediatrix,
present them to thy Son.
Seeing them presented by thee
and held in thy maternal Heart,
there is nothing that He will not do
to give to each intention the one response
worthy of the infinite mercy and love of His Sacred Heart.

Praying in this way, I can be at rest,
for thou art my Mother,
and all that I entrust to thee will be,
I am sure,
received, and considered, and cared for
with a Mother's love.
Amen.

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TOPICS: Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholicbashing; exclusivity; focus; holiness; marybashing; worship
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To: metmom

Catholic teaching is not equivalent to historical Christianity.

There was no special revelation in the twisting of Scripture that was done to try to make the comparison between Mary and the Ark of the Covenant.

All that the Catholic church has done is demonstrate that it will stop at nothing, not even corrupting Scripture, to bolster its Mary doctrines and teaching.

Would Catholicism fall apart without Mary? It certainly appears that, based on the responses of Catholics on this thread, that if you took Mary out of the mix, Catholicism would crumble.

I find it very telling the fervor with which Mary is defended and the almost complete lack of mention of Jesus by the FRoman Catholics.

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INDEED! INDEED!


921 posted on 05/02/2010 10:11:15 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Mad Dawg

WONDERFULLY HUGE BELLY LAUGH.

THX.


922 posted on 05/02/2010 10:12:22 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

You are speaking truth, I can attest to it.


923 posted on 05/02/2010 10:12:50 PM PDT by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: Running On Empty; Mad Dawg; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...
“...criticized because we did not all leap to the task of finding words to suit our challengers”

THANKS for reminding me.

NO. THAT WAS NOT IT.

Suiting Prottys or any other mortals is NOT the issue.

Conforming to the image of Christ and His Word, IS.

924 posted on 05/02/2010 10:15:28 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; metmom; RnMomof7; roamer_1; count-your-change; Iscool; 1000 silverlings

Your post is well-worth repeating. Those quotes are dizzying...

“Ferraro’s manual about the Rosary” -—

p.32
Mary is crowned Queen of heaven and earth, dispenser of all graces . . .

p32
4 - She became Queen of Purgatory, where she exercises her power as mediatrix in behalf of these suffering souls.

5 - She became Queen of us sinners, to assist us through the dangers of this life and to help us in difficulties.

6 - She became the ruler of hell, that trembles at her slightest gaze and is defeated by her power.

“Just as a rock extracted from earth will precipitate into the abyss, so will man, left without Mary’s help, quickly slide toward hell.” —Richard of St Victor

p37
Sacred Heart of Jesus, Thy kingdom come; Thy kingdom come through Mary! —Partial Indulgence

p41
“Mary is the tree of life to those who grasp her, and he is happy who hold her fast.” —Prov. 3:18

p43
1 - “Hail Mary, beloved daughter of the Father, Mother of the Divine Son, Spouse of the Holy Spirit, complement of the most august Trinity!”

p45
6 - To her was granted grace greater than that conferred upon all others, ‘that she might vanquish sin in every respect.’

p46
7 - “Mary is the dawn of God because, just as the dawn marks the end of darkness and the beginning of day, so Mary indicates the end of vices and the beginning of virtue.”

9 - God loved Mary so much that He gave her the keys to His heart. ‘No one can go to God without Mary drawing him.’

p47
4 - “Mary, trusting in the word of the angel, destroyed the sin Eve committed by trusting in the serpent.’

[Q5 - “She desired the safety of everyone, went in search of it, and obtained it; it was also through her that this salvation was wrought.”

p47
10 - “As Noah’s Ark saved all the animals that entered it, so Mary saves all the souls that entrust themselves to her care.”

p50
8 - “If she were not so holy as she is, how could God appoint her to be the ladder of Paradise, the advocate of the world, meatrix between HIm and us?”

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925 posted on 05/02/2010 10:18:02 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: roamer_1
Here is the full document from Father John Hardon on miracles. Maybe it will help.
926 posted on 05/02/2010 10:19:06 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: Quix
I’ve often read the business about satan only managing trickery vs real ‘magical’ things.

I’m not so sure. He’s a potent force within the boundaries that God has set for him.

I am quite certain our adversaries are FAR beyond the abilities of a natural fallen man.

927 posted on 05/02/2010 10:19:21 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: Alamo-Girl

THANKS FOR YOUR KIND REPLY.


928 posted on 05/02/2010 10:23:13 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: roamer_1
Thank you for the ping to 911, dear roamer_1!

Since false Christs and false prophets will perform great signs and wonders - why would we think Satan couldn't?

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect. - Matt 24:24

God's Name is I AM.

929 posted on 05/02/2010 10:23:43 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

PRAISE GOD for your kind affirmation of Biblical Truth.


930 posted on 05/02/2010 10:23:57 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
More of the Queen of Heaven mythology from hell.

That is precisely so.

931 posted on 05/02/2010 10:24:19 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: roamer_1; Quix
"Wherefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will do judgment upon her graven images: and through all her land the wounded shall groan.

Though Babylon should mount up to heaven, and though she should fortify the height of her strength, yet from me shall spoilers come unto her, saith the LORD.

A sound of a cry cometh from Babylon, and great destruction from the land of the Chaldeans:

Because the LORD hath spoiled Babylon, and destroyed out of her the great voice; when her waves do roar like great waters, a noise of their voice is uttered:

Because the spoiler is come upon her, even upon Babylon, and her mighty men are taken, every one of their bows is broken: for the LORD God of recompences shall surely requite." -- Jeremiah 51:52-56

I really like those verses.

932 posted on 05/02/2010 10:31:21 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

THANKS FOR your support of asserting Biblical Truth.

. . .

I picked up a used booklet at the used book table . . . on the QUEEN OF HEAVEN—all manifestations. The Roman Catholic et al variety was only a rather small part of the booklet.

I’m convinced it’s a bigger spiritual warfare issue than I’d ever realized before.

Sobering.


933 posted on 05/02/2010 10:36:39 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: stfassisi

The Blood of Jesus and Holy Spirit handle such Canonizations daily . . . Several youths were Baptized in this morning’s service, PRAISE GOD!


934 posted on 05/02/2010 10:40:51 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: editor-surveyor

Cannonization is a meaningless idolatrous, humanist ceremony conducted by upper echelon Nicolaitanos

= = =

ZING, ZOT, ZAP,

DING! DING! DING!

SCORE!


935 posted on 05/02/2010 10:42:15 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
Odd that the Roman Catholic et al edifice would, yet again, disagree with Scripture about such a thing:
[...]
Perhaps contradicting Scripture became an institutional hobby somewhere along the way.

It really is unfathomable to me. There is no standard OF God, except the Bible. Without a standard, there can be no measurement, and judgment slips away.

936 posted on 05/02/2010 10:42:49 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: RnMomof7

Jerome did not agree with the apocrypha books being inspired...so is he still “completely Catholic?”

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GREAT QUESTION.


937 posted on 05/02/2010 10:45:23 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
It is abundantly clear, from such as the above, that to anyone with sufficient English skills that millions of Roman Catholics et al [thankfully not all of them] construe Mary to be an essential part of, if not the key to, their ETERNAL SALVATION.

It is difficult to overstate the idolatrous, blasphemous affront this represents to the DEITY AND ROLE OF CHRIST IN THE LIFE AND ETERNAL DESTINY OF THE CHRISTIAN.

That's it exactly. ANYTHING that takes away from Christ (He is the head of all things) cannot be true.

938 posted on 05/02/2010 10:47:51 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: RnMomof7

Jerome did not agree with the apocrypha books being inspired...so is he still “completely Catholic?”

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Perhaps . . . except for the frontal lobes or maybe his big toenail.

GREAT QUESTION.


940 posted on 05/02/2010 10:48:35 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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