Give Your All To . . . ? . . . . [A Rel Forum Research thread--Open]

Bible, Vultus Christi, Quix's noggin ^ | 28 APR 2010; 30 APR 2010 | Jesus, Mark Kirby & Quix

[stfassisi]

He knows the truth most emphatically.

Yes He does ,and I pray for us both to follow it with fear and trembling

[bonfire]

Amen, quix!

He who has ears to hear, let him hear!

[Quix]

Thanks for your castigations.

I appreciate the Heavenly reward that they accrue to my account there.

It is also a welcome and humblingly wonderful thing to see how outrageously distant your accusations are from the realities involved. Thanks for that, too.

[count-your-change]

YOU said Luke made “conspicuous comparisons”. Either he did or he did not. My beliefs and your assumptions about them are irrelevant to the point.

[Quix]

Aye aye.

Sorry, I should have been more alert and mindful of that.

[stfassisi]

A root of bitterness usually clouds, distorts, obscures perception.

A root of love bothers people who don't perceive love because they are blinded by pride

[Quix]

Thanks for your kind reply.

[stfassisi]

Thanks for the Scriptures ,dear sister

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you for sharing your beautiful testimony and insights, dear sister in Christ!

The deeds God loves the most are those He alone has witnessed. Remember Nathaniel?

Indeed.

Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

Therefore when thou doest [thine] alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth: That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly. - Matt 6:1-4

Jesus continues that theme throughout chapter 6 of Matthew.

God's Name is I AM

[Quix]

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

[count-your-change]

The granting of indulgences, given the history of the practice, would not be something I would claim benefits anyone.

[Iscool]

Are you some special messenger of God that has no consistent historical interpretations of Scripture?

Reminds me of your Origen, one of your great church fathers...He is pretty much responsible for the false notion that most scripture was to be taken as allegory...In other words, scripture is not literal, it means something other than what it says...But unfortunately, no Catholic ever figured out what the allegories alluded to, but yet your church still follows this private min-interpretation of the scripturs...

And so then, it is the Catholic historical position that most scripture is allegorical...

So does that make Origen's premise true??? Of course not...All that shows is that Origen looked at scripture thru the eyes of the 'natural' man...The scripture that Origen and his followers couldn't/can't figure out tells us that...

[LadyDoc]

Origen’s writings are sometimes used, but some of them are heretical and not used by the church...

have to separate the writings from what he later did.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

This is not the zero-sum mathematics that leads to talents wrapped in a napkin and buried. This is the arithmetic of talents traded and doubled...

This is language. And words mean something.

Rome is forever telling us ridiculous things and then furiously trying to explain away the clear and simple meaning of those words.

Men are not an "alter Christus," no matter how Rome would like to finagle the definition. There is no Christ but Jesus and He is in heaven, not on any alter.

And men are not instructed to "give their all to Mary." God forbid.

RC apologists should flee any person or organization that encourages that kind of anti-Scriptural, anti-Christian thinking. It may feel all warm and cozy and familial, but sentimental idolatry often feels good to our fallen hearts.

Resist it. Christ alone is worthy of our "all."

"For this man was counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as he who hath builded the house hath more honour than the house." -- Hebrews 3:3

[Dr. Eckleburg]

If we love any thing or any one equal to or more than God - if only for a moment - then that thing or that one is for us an idol.

Amen! The irrefutable bottom line.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Amen. Just the opposite. God does not barter His grace and I doubt He’d be happy if we assume He does.

[Quix]

WELL AND BIBLICALLY SAID, imho.

Thx.

[Quix]

YES, INDEED! imho, also, the IRREFUTABLE BOTTOM LINE:

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If we love any thing or any one equal to or more than God - if only for a moment - then that thing or that one is for us an idol.

Amen! The irrefutable bottom line.

[Judith Anne]

What does that have to do with worshiping an edifice?

[mlizzy]

Metmom, Mary is a go-between, and you evidently didn't read Fr. Mark's prayer in its totality or you would have read these words;

" ... as my Advocate and all-powerful intercessor and Mediatrix, present them to thy Son.

Nowhere in Father Mark's prayer, does he refer to Mary as God. Her purpose is to bring people to her Son. If you'd like to learn about the Catholic Faith, instead of spreading calumny, please see the Catechism of the Catholic Church, and anything written by Father J. Hardon. My husband recommended Aquinas or Augustine, and he especially recommended The Story of a Soul, which is an autobiography of St. Therese of Lisieux, "The Little Flower." It is an easy read, whereas Aquinas and/or Augustine are surely tougher. One of my favorite holy books as a complement to the Holy Bible is The Imitation of Christ by Thomas A. Kempis. If you read anything from these books (here's a link to search the Catechism) and wish to discuss their content, that would be cool.