One guess. Here's a hint:
Posted on 04/30/2010 8:03:48 AM PDT by Quix
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7 “When you pray, don’t babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered merely by repeating their words again and again. 8 Don’t be like them, for your Father knows exactly what you need even before you ask him! 9 Pray like this: Our Father in heaven, --New Living Translation 7And when you pray, do not heap up phrases (multiply words, repeating the same ones over and over) as the Gentiles do, for they think they will be heard for their much speaking. [I Kings 18:25-29.] 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him. 9Pray, therefore, like this: 15But if you do not forgive others their trespasses [their [j]reckless and willful sins, [k]leaving them, letting them go, and [l]giving up resentment], neither will your Father forgive you your trespasses. --Amplified Pray with Simplicity 5"And when you come before God, don't turn that into a theatrical production either. All these people making a regular show out of their prayers, hoping for stardom! Do you think God sits in a box seat? 6"Here's what I want you to do: Find a quiet, secluded place so you won't be tempted to role-play before God. Just be there as simply and honestly as you can manage. The focus will shift from you to God, and you will begin to sense his grace. 7-13"The world is full of so-called prayer warriors who are prayer-ignorant. They're full of formulas and programs and advice, peddling techniques for getting what you want from God. Don't fall for that nonsense. This is your Father you are dealing with, and he knows better than you what you need. With a God like this loving you, you can pray very simply. Like this: 16-18"When you practice some appetite-denying discipline to better concentrate on God, don't make a production out of it. It might turn you into a small-time celebrity but it won't make you a saint. If you 'go into training' inwardly, act normal outwardly. Shampoo and comb your hair, brush your teeth, wash your face. God doesn't require attention-getting devices. He won't overlook what you are doing; he'll reward you well. |
Mark Kirby: O Mother of Good Counsel, I am all thine, Most Holy Mary, There is no part of my life that is not open to thee, I want to be completely transparent with thee, Praying in this way, I can be at rest, |
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ouch...I think I just got a cramp.
“You may demand to have a discussion, but others may find you so unpleasant that they disagree.”
Now wait. You are here on this thread, so are you saying you want to have a discussion, or are you saying you disagree to have a discussion because you feel someone is unpleasant here? If you don’t want to have a discussion, then why did you come?
“Anyway, refusing to answer someone’s set up question is refusing to play a game wherein the other guy makes all the rules. Playing such a game would be ridiculous.”
The questions asked were:
“They why do Catholics pray to them? They must believe that they can hear us. Where is that found in Scripture?”
Where indeed is it found? How is that a setup? It couldn’t be a more straightforward question.
I take it you are a ‘no’ on the question of “Give your all to Jesus” as well?
One guess. Here's a hint:
No. We try hard not to sink to your level.
I didn’t demand a discussion.
I merely asked someone if they wanted to take a shot at answering some questions. When he replied *No* Others and I took that as admission of defeat.
Saying that I demanded a discussion is bearing false witness.
Are you going to say the same thing about Christ's sine it did not become dogma until the Council of Nicea?
This is a false teaching because the ark was a type of Christ
What the Ark CONTAINED was a type of Christ-The Ark is a type of Mary. Christ did not birth Himself,dear Sister
The church fathers were not infallible /
And you are? They lived closer to Christ than you did and many gave their lives for Christianity. Who in their right mind would believe someone who sits on FR and cannot back up many of their beliefs with historical consistent writings?
All I ask is show using the scriptures where Jesus or any of the apostles said Mary was sinless..
There is lots of Typology on this all backed up with the Early Church Fathers
Just a few examples from scripturecatholic .com
Luke 1:39 / 2 Sam. 6:2 - Luke's conspicuous comparison's between Mary and the Ark described by Samuel underscores the reality of Mary as the undefiled and immaculate Ark of the New Covenant. In these verses, Mary (the Ark) arose and went / David arose and went to the Ark. There is a clear parallel between the Ark of the Old and the Ark of the New Covenant.
Luke 1:41 / 2 Sam. 6:16 - John the Baptist / King David leap for joy before Mary / Ark. So should we leap for joy before Mary the immaculate Ark of the Word made flesh.
Luke 1:43 / 2 Sam. 6:9 - How can the Mother / Ark of the Lord come to me? It is a holy privilege. Our Mother wants to come to us and lead us to Jesus.
Luke 1:56 / 2 Sam. 6:11 and 1 Chron. 13:14 - Mary / the Ark remained in the house for about three months.
Saying that I demanded a discussion is bearing false witness.
Taking a refusal to "take a shot at answering some questions" as an admission of defeat is bearing false witness.
Making it personal is against the rules.
Heeheehaha! Yeah, I heard about that match! Wasn’t it Saul one, David Love? I heard David went on to win the title after a surprising upset. I tell you, that boy could send the ball right between the eyes!
Totally agreed on the Bible tweaking. Remove the context and you can distort all kinds of things out of it. For example, many times the Bible states that Christ is the Rock. But if that is ignored, then one could build a whole edifice around one intentionally misunderstood verse.
Anyway, you’ve heard about “The Ashes” by the alter right? But what the Bible doesn’t tell you is that they came by way of a googly zooter round the wicket.
Those who post this garbage are really the demonac
Seems to me from looking at your posts that you idolize quix and have a case of quixolatry
Please don't post me again!
LOL. Paul of Tarsus of course.
That is making it personal. I do not need to explain to anyone why I am here.
“They why do Catholics pray to them? They must believe that they can hear us. Where is that found in Scripture?”
The Catechism has the answers!
I take it you are a ‘no’ on the question of “Give your all to Jesus” as well?
Imputing an answer to me is mind reading. Along with "making it personal," it is against the rules.
Nothing. No. Easily. Yes.
Oh, now....he is TOO cute, but in a nutshell, exactly why I do not swim in public pools anymore! And most private ones either!
LOL!
Agreed.
When the person doing the measuring can NOT back up their own belief with little historical interpretations of Scripture and consistency they are likely prideful modernists heretics
I would never trust you to be the measure of Scripture
That is an absolutely adorable child!
Those who worship, follow, and obey the edifice that houses its center in the Vatican.
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Campion said: “He’s God. He can do whatever he wants. “
Psalm 115:3 says, "Whatever he wills to do he does."
I think it is clear that if he does it, he can do it.
Therefore the verse from Psalm 115:3 implies:
Whatever he wills to do he can do.
I cannot see the difference between "whatever he wills to do he can do, and "He can do whatever he wants."
IIa
When asked to defend the proposition that God can NOT do whatever he wants, you adduce a text which says God cannot lie.
That could only be a refutation if it were agreed that God wants to lie. Otherwise you have only shown that there are some things God does not want to do and cannot do. You have NOT shown that it is not true that he can do whatever he wants.
IIb
Do you not think lying is evil? If you do think lying is evil, AND you think the text showing that he cannot lie refutes Campion, THEN can we conclude that you think God might or could want to do evil?
IF so, THEN either God is not free OR freedom can include wanting evil.
The first is interesting. The second is precisely the kind of thinking you say Protestants do not do.
So do you think God is not free? OR Do you agree that God can indeed to whatever he wants?
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